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« on: May 11, 2009, 06:53:26 PM »

Down in Southern California, we play a mash up version of ultimate, goaltimate, soccer, hockey, and basketball. It is mainly a take off of ultimate and soccer. We call it "Froccer" (FRISBEE+SOCCER). Check it out:

FROCCER WEBSITE

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/QYcK3rQfW0M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/QYcK3rQfW0M</a>

We play in mini goals, no goalies. It is more dynamic than ultimate as you have to be able to catch, throw and hit a target. It is fast pace and intense. No out of bounds, you can play off of anything and everything. Send me a message if you have any questions.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 06:58:43 AM »

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We play in mini goals, no goalies. It is more dynamic than ultimate as you have to be able to catch, throw and hit a target. It is fast pace and intense. No out of bounds, you can play off of anything and everything. Send me a message if you have any questions.

Yeah, it would be good as a warmup and practice. But as a serious game?

I'd like some clarification: do you have to set a pivot foot or can your run with the disc? Bit confusing, i saw people moving with the disc... Your video clip didn't show much of the "fast pace" or "intense" parts of the game. Just looked like a bunch of guys that couldn't throw, mucking around in a park... With goals that are used to here to teach kids under 10 years old how to play soccer.

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Froccer is like ultimate frisbee. But Better. Being athletic, ultimate frisbee turned out to be just a simple game where out-running your opponent created points. We decided there needed to be another element. We decided trying to get the disc in a soccer net would make the game more dynamic. You may be able to outrun your opponent, but if you cannot get the disc in the goal, your speed is worthless. Thus, froccer (frisbee + soccer) was created.

Interesting how points of view shape our opinions. I took that from your website.

I disagree that it has made a game more dynamic. Dynamic by definition is changing, or varying. Defending an area 18m x 37m is much more dynamic than defending an area roughly 12ft square. Once you turn the disc, you could just stand everyone in front of the goal and they can't score, as we see towards the end when that white shirted guy has it and he held onto it for about 8 seconds. Playing D in ultimate you actually have to chase your player and prevent them from doing damage by changing your strategy as they change theirs.

I'm sorry, but it seems very much a game tailored towards handlers. Lots of throwing and a minimum of running  Grin.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 03:52:48 PM »

I would definitely disagree with the assessment that Ultimate is all about speed. Maybe that is how it is in pickup games. But in organized games there is much more strategy and technique in terms of offenses/defenses.

If all you have played is pickup ultimate with some buddies, I suggest you look around for a league and give it a shot before you write the sport off.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 06:54:35 PM »

I think you are mixing up dynamic and static.  In "froccer" you have a static(not moving) goal instead of a moving(dynamic) person moving to score with someone guarding them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 01:00:18 PM »

Im sorry but I agree with everyone. This looks like a group of people running around with no idea of what they are actually doing. So you work it down the field while traveling to score in a 3 foot goal?
Yeah why not just put a guy in front of the goal to block the throw? Where the intensity? I saw four people throw it right into the defenders hand right in front of him. Hmmm.... Undecided

I say find a real game of Ultimate to play and you'll soon see the difference, and I dont like the self proclaimed, "Better than Ultimate"
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2010, 05:46:37 PM »

I would definitely disagree with the assessment that Ultimate is all about speed. Maybe that is how it is in pickup games. But in organized games there is much more strategy and technique in terms of offenses/defenses.

If all you have played is pickup ultimate with some buddies, I suggest you look around for a league and give it a shot before you write the sport off.

At some point, there is no substitute for speed.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 04:09:43 PM »

I wish I was in southern california so I could show up to your froccer game....














Once there I would punch you in the face for wasting those 2:28 seconds of my life with what looks like a game for people without enough physical ability or technique to play ultimate.
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