UPA Rules

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[maciej_uwaga]

Hey Guys,
Just a quick question, according to UPA rules; Any uncontested foul committed by a defender that affects an attempted reception in the endzone results in a point. Is it true or false??
Cheers

[Apriori]

I believe that an uncontested foul in the endzone results in the player that was fouled having the disc on the goal line.

However, if the player believes that he/she had possession of the disc and that it was stripped from them due to the foul and there's no contest, I believe that results in a point.

[tyromaniac]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have another question about a rule:
What happens when both a defender and an offensive player catch the disc at the same time and maintain posession even after collision/falling down? Can either rip it out of the other players hand before the catch is considered caught?

[kryptonick]

I havent read up on this, but I can tell you that you cannot rip it out either parties hands. I'd expect that the offensive receiver would retain possession, since effectively all that happened is a pass was completed and the defensive player grabbed onto the disc.

[rrudnic]

The first one, lets say I make a catch at waist level and you lay out through my arms and I drop the disc, uncontested foul, by the rules thats a score. Its a score once I have possession in the endzone.
Now lets say we both jump and I tip the disc and you smack my arms/hands to prevent me from catching it, uncontested foul, I gain possession on the goal line because I never had posession but it was a catchable disc and the foul is believed to have prevented the catch.   

The second one definitely remains offensive posession, tie goes to the O, ripping the disc out of the other players hand would also be a strip.

[gambler]

A couple of additional comments about endzone foul calls...

According to UPA 11th edition rules, if there is an uncontested foul on a reception in the endzone that was not a strip (i.e. the receiver did not have control over the disc before the foul), the disc is checked in by the defender at the site of the foul before the receiver walks it back to the goalline to ground touch and play. 

This is often not done correctly.  The disc is LIVE and other players can move as soon as the defender checks the disc in at the site of the foul.  So, if the foul was in the back of the endzone, an offense should have time to set up its endzone O by the time the thrower walks the disc back to the line.  Just make sure that they ground touch the disc to indicate where their pivot foot is or a quick goal could be called back on a travel violation.

As others have said, if the foul is uncontested and it was a strip knocking the disc out of the receiver's possession, then it is a goal. 

If either type of endzone foul are contested, the disc goes back to the thrower and all the players re-position themselves to where they were when the throw was released.

[s0urce]

on a "tie" catch, offense retains possesion.   If it gets pulled out of his hands, then foul (strip)

[DevilDawg91]

This may be the same ruling, but, in a pick-up game the other night, the offensive and defensive players both tried to rip the disc from each other, resulting in he disc falling to the gound. We ruled it incomplete. What is the correct ruling?

[kryptonick]

nope, if the disc is caught, controlled and stops spinning then the player who caught and controlled the disc first retains possesion. if possession is deemed to have occurred simultaneously then the offense retains the disc.