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Title: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on February 23, 2009, 01:01:40 AM
Already? Really?

Already the uni season is starting to take shape. There's a couple of tournaments penciled in already to check out...

Saturday April 4 - Sydney IV (Sydney, NSW)
Sat May 2 to Sun May 3 - Ultimate Stampede III (Bathurst, NSW)
Sat July 25 to Sun July 26 - Halibut 2009 (Brisbane, QLD)
Sat Aug 22 to Sun Aug 23 - B-Town Showdown (Ballarat, VIC)

We're introducing a new concept this year - The IVy League! This will be a nationwide competition between unis around Australia, happening from May till September. Stay tuned for more info on this.

University Games is also back on in the July holidays...

Sun July 5 to Wed July 8 - Northern Uni Games (Sunshine Coast, QLD)
Sun July 5 to Wed July 8 - Eastern Uni Games (Bathurst, NSW)
Sun July 5 to Wed July 8 - Southern Uni Games (Melbourne, VIC)

Then there's the big one...

Sunday September 27 to Friday October 2 - Australian Uni Games (Gold Coast, QLD)

Kevin Rudd's little stimulus package should pay for that! Bookmark the AUS website for more info during the year.




The decision was made late last year to have two divisions at AUG this year. Division 1 will be for the more competitive teams, who will have 2-3 games per day (9-10 total). Division 2 will be aimed at new teams and those who just want to party! They will have 1-2 games per day (7-8 total). This also means new teams will be able to bring a small-ish squad without getting run into the ground.

I really should stress this point - No team will be forced into a division against their will. It won't be based on seedings, past results, moon phases or chook lotto. Every team will be able to choose which division they want to compete in. This is something that will be discussed in second semester, so there's no need to stress about it now.

Currently the roster limit is at 16. I will be lobbying to get this changed this year to 18 to allow teams some extra players to reduce the risk of injuries and fatigue, especially in hot weather in Queensland.

At the regional Uni Games, clubs can enter as many teams as they want. However, at AUG only one team per university is allowed. This is a change from previous years where multiple teams could be entered.


Early tips?

BUUF. Justice. Fuck. Yeah.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on February 23, 2009, 04:15:24 PM
Uni Hat tournament in sydney is going to be held sometime around the 4th of April... The boys are sorting that out, we should have some more news soon.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on February 23, 2009, 05:14:33 PM
The Uni Hat tournament is going to be on the 21st of March Dan.  99% sure it will be at Centennial Park.

The Sydney Uni IV thing is totally different, and may or may not clash with the Bra Cup

On a side note.  It's going to be pretty hard to convince people to go to the Stampede AND EUGs in Bathurst...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on February 23, 2009, 06:21:10 PM

I think ECC moving back to regional NSW is a great move. Hopefully we can continue to get more unis participating at ECC and get back to the good old EUG days of ~15 teams.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on February 23, 2009, 09:02:26 PM
Why do Sydneysiders hate leaving Sydney so much?

BUUF's going to Stampede, and hopefully another Vic team or two. Everyone else should too. You don't win Party Of The Year twice in a row by putting on shit tourneys.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on February 23, 2009, 10:42:09 PM
QUT will have a hot team again this year. I dont want to talk about on field performance coz that is a minor inconvience is what is a loose week.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ash_5 on February 23, 2009, 11:05:42 PM
Jangles has got it all right..its all about the off-field performance in my mind


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on February 24, 2009, 02:03:36 AM
I'm all about leaving Sydney. I think I'm even rego'd to play for BUUF at Stampede...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on February 24, 2009, 07:54:58 AM

UWA will be there with painters suits on (again)...

In terms of divisions, what will happen with G+G and medalling? Will Division 2 teams win medals etc as with all other sports, and will Div 2 teams player's be considered for G+G selection. I know that usually players are selected from the top 8ish teams, but if a superstar player is in Div 2 will they still be considered?

How many nights will QUT manage to stay in their accomodation this year? I'll give them less than 48 hours!  :)

Quick tips:

If UQ show, I reckon they will be strong.
La Trobe will be good and be out for revenge after '08's bad streak of luck.
Moz reckons "it will be harder to make the Monash starting lineup then it will be to win AUG".... But they said that in '08 too...
And the dark horses from South Australia (Flinders and UAd) will always be good. 2 of the top 3 teams - cant argue with that can you!

Anyone know if UNSW are getting organised this year?

Oh and now that Benny Haim is back in action after travelling for a year slaying Wolverines, UWA will be ready for blood.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on February 24, 2009, 05:06:42 PM
I know it's very, very early (O-Week not being finished or even started for some) but, if we're going with this idea of two divisions, where is everyone planning to compete?

Serious hats on, people.

Macquarie will want to play division 1.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on February 24, 2009, 06:17:43 PM
Newcastle will also play in Div 1. Early signs look like our team will be at least as strong as last year, hopefully even stronger!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Az06 on February 24, 2009, 07:02:49 PM
As long as I can get another Callaghan against a Newcastle girl I will be happy.

 :P

But this time I will try not yell so loud about it.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on February 24, 2009, 09:46:21 PM
In terms of divisions, what will happen with G+G and medalling? Will Division 2 teams win medals etc as with all other sports, and will Div 2 teams player's be considered for G+G selection. I know that usually players are selected from the top 8ish teams, but if a superstar player is in Div 2 will they still be considered?
Two lots of medals. One G+G team, both divisions considered. And yes it can happen - one of UoB's AFL players made G+G from Div2 in 2008.


If UQ show, I reckon they will be strong. - Agreed
La Trobe will be good and be out for revenge after '08's bad streak of luck. - Macca's at UoB now, Jenica is back home. Both massive losses
Moz reckons "it will be harder to make the Monash starting lineup then it will be to win AUG".... But they said that in '08 too... - Yeah, hard for Mozza


edit: B-Town will be Div 1
And the dark horses from South Australia (Flinders and UAd) will always be good. 2 of the top 3 teams - cant argue with that can you! - Wouldn't call either of them dark horses. No big losses at either club, but Joel might not show now that "Win AUG gold" has been crossed of his list of Things To Do

Anyone know if UNSW are getting organised this year? - Yes. Nadine C (ex-SUUFA and Southside) has taken over the club there. They'll be back

Oh and now that Benny Haim is back in action after travelling for a year slaying Wolverines, UWA will be ready for blood. - Whatevs


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on February 24, 2009, 10:06:23 PM
Major changes to team lists since '08?

UQ: GAINS: everyone, since '08...

BUUF: GAINS: Drule, Macca, Timill, can't recall who else... LOSSES: ?

LaTuf: GAINS: Possibly Eric, is he still around in sem 2? LOSSES: Jenica, Macca, ?



Who's got more to add?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ash_5 on February 25, 2009, 08:50:26 AM
Don't know what Murdochs going to be doing, if we can retain alot of our players from 08 we'll probs play Div 1, but thats just my opinion, haven't talked it over with the team yet. If we don't then say Hello to Div 2!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on February 25, 2009, 06:24:50 PM
Why do Sydneysiders hate leaving Sydney so much?

BUUF's going to Stampede, and hopefully another Vic team or two. Everyone else should too. You don't win Party Of The Year twice in a row by putting on shit tourneys.

Personally I'll be going to both.  It's just very hard to convince people that have only been playing a month or two that it's a good idea to go to Bathurst twice in a row.

UTS will be aiming for div1, but a lot can change between now and the end of the year so we'll see!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on February 25, 2009, 07:34:40 PM
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How many nights will QUT manage to stay in their accomodation this year? I'll give them less than 48 hours! 

ill go for 24 hours if we are with the rugby boys again. Then back seats all the way baby!!!!!

I might not be there the whole week but might come down for the first few day and maybe the final. Depends if i am employed at the time.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on February 26, 2009, 07:18:17 AM
On a side note.  It's going to be pretty hard to convince people to go to the Stampede AND EUGs in Bathurst...

Well given I have classes clashing with the Stampede my decision has been made... which blows my chance of getting the hat trick =(

Macquarie will want to play division 1.

You mean Nikki will kick our asses if we don't...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on February 26, 2009, 03:23:58 PM
Well, when I say "no one will be forced into a division", I mean that "if any of 2008's quarter finalists, or UQ, tries to enter Div2, I'll tell them to stop being silly and put them in Div1."


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on February 27, 2009, 04:36:05 AM
Well, when I say "no one will be forced into a division", I mean that "if any of 2008's quarter finalists, or UQ, tries to enter Div2, I'll tell them to stop being silly and put them in Div1."

Nice move.

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BUUF: GAINS: Drule, Macca, Timill, can't recall who else... LOSSES: ?

You've gotta be kidding? Those are some serious recruits right there......


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris on March 01, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
UQ: GAINS: everyone, since '08...

Who's got more to add?
I'll add the comment that it could seriously be harder to get one of the 9 male spots on the 2009 UQ AUG team than to make firestorm, and that before factoring the chance of any imports. 

BUUF: GAINS: Drule, Macca, Timill, can't recall who else...
Yawn...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on March 01, 2009, 10:48:00 PM
Major changes to team lists since '08?

UQ: GAINS: everyone, since '08...

BUUF: GAINS: Drule, Macca, Timill, can't recall who else... LOSSES: ?

LaTuf: GAINS: Possibly Eric, is he still around in sem 2? LOSSES: Jenica, Macca, ?



Who's got more to add?
Flinders: Loss - erin - Gains - lots


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on March 01, 2009, 11:19:49 PM
Why do Sydneysiders hate leaving Sydney so much?

BUUF's going to Stampede, and hopefully another Vic team or two. Everyone else should too. You don't win Party Of The Year twice in a row by putting on shit tourneys.

Personally I'll be going to both.  It's just very hard to convince people that have only been playing a month or two that it's a good idea to go to Bathurst twice in a row.

UTS will be aiming for div1, but a lot can change between now and the end of the year so we'll see!


Yeah it's not the leaving Sydney part but going to the same place twice in a relatively close time span.
It might kill the novelty of frisbee for the newbies to go to Batho twice.
Cold, rainy and windy Bathurst :(
Bozz is a great TD but he doesn't have a direct line to the weather gods.
Thankfully, I'm soft and not playing EUGs this year.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 02, 2009, 12:33:55 AM
BUUF: GAINS: Drule, Macca, Timill, can't recall who else...
Yawn...

On a team like UQ where there are already some big names, timill and dan rule might become lost.

But on a team with Simmo and Doogie......

Onto the next issue:

Travelling to bathurst twice is more about the fact that it is bathurst. Bathurst is known for cold weather, hard fields and +40degree days.... When compared to places like the Gold Coast, or even Melbourne (good night life and sweet public transport), bathurst struggles due to a lack of natural and man-made attractions. Boz rocks and is an excellent TD (he let us play jousting with the AUS' super-expensive flag thingys), so we'll see how much his awesomeness weighs against any of the bad stuff we may run into.

Speaking of losses: we lost our fastest D man (who couldn't throw) and our most consistent handler/experienced player. However we have plenty of returners... Should be fun.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 02, 2009, 03:45:28 AM
Bathurst is known for cold weather, hard fields and +40degree days.
Once again, Dan...do you actually read what you write?

Yes, traveling to the same place twice may make the novelty wear off a bit, spare a thought for teams like CSU, Byron Bay, Traralgon and Townsville, who HAVE to travel if they want to play ANY tournament.

And fuck it, I may as well moan about BUUF's story...we travel to Melbourne (90min) every single week for club trainings and Geelong (60min) for league. Makes two trips to Bathurst seem a bit light on, really.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on March 02, 2009, 07:20:07 AM
Flinders: Loss - erin - Gains - lots

You're telling me Robbie is a gain? Doubt that.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on March 02, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
Bathurst is known for cold weather, hard fields and +40degree days.
Once again, Dan...do you actually read what you write?
Amen. And if you even try to tell us that you were talking in farenheit....

Should be a strong AUG by the look of it. Looks like teams will be competing for spots in Div 1. How will they be allocated Pissy? How will you compare teams like UQ, UNSW et al who didnt play 07? Regionals? Boat Race???

Haha jangles, is there much point even booking accom if your only gonna last 24 hours? Might as well cut your losses and tent it at the fields. Also means you get another 15ish minutes sleep in in the morning.






Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on March 03, 2009, 01:03:02 AM
Flinders: Loss - erin - Gains - lots

You're telling me Robbie is a gain? Doubt that.

hahah maybeh......


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on March 03, 2009, 01:56:39 AM
Just to put something to rest...

Regionals was held in ORANGE. ORANGE had the rock hard ground (sorry) and the REALLY hot days!

Weather in Bathurst will be around 5 - 20 degrees between April to July.
I will be putting through all of my favours to get some decent weather for the Stampede this year which is on the 23/24th of May!

I urge EVERYONE to come to BOTH tourneys as they are COMPLETELY different!!!
Stampede is more about having fun, nice start to the mixed season and is aimed at beginner - intermediate teams with some old hands and shenanigans thrown in there.
EUG'S is aimed at Uni teams looking to get their shit down before AUG's!!

Like Simmo has said before, CSU and the BozzBrown Combo (that's me and heather) have brought you the party of the year TWO YEARS in a row now! Now that HAS to be a reason to come to the Stampede where there will be an Ultimate only party that will be EPIC! (no mechanical bull though)

Don't write off going to Bathurst (which is 2.5-3 hrs from Sydney) just because the tournies are within 60 days of each other :)
I'll be there for both and I live in Sydney!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on March 03, 2009, 02:01:01 AM
Sorry to double post...

But Bathurst is 30-60mins drive MORE then heading to Newcastle (pending on traffic)

Sorry if I come off a little grumpy, but I've done the drive from bathurst to sydney for 4 years now (even for 2 games of Ultimate and then driven back) and it's not THAT far.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 03, 2009, 02:04:29 AM
Bathurst.... Orange....

Its all the same.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: frisWEE on March 03, 2009, 02:23:30 AM
cept for dubbo. best zoo ever.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on March 03, 2009, 04:37:40 AM
Like Simmo has said before, CSU and the BozzBrown Combo (that's me and heather) have brought you the party of the year TWO YEARS in a row now! Now that HAS to be a reason to come to the Stampede where there will be an Ultimate only party that will be EPIC! (no mechanical bull though)

Don't write off going to Bathurst (which is 2.5-3 hrs from Sydney) just because the tournies are within 60 days of each other :)
I'll be there for both and I live in Sydney!

Seriously guys... who cares where the thing is played? Once you're there you don't notice... The stampede kicks ass for its fun factor and EUGs could be played in the middle of nowhere and it would still be insanely loose...
We play frisbee... all we really need is 8 markers and enough flat (ish) space to set them up and we should be able to have a good time...

I'll be at EUGs (one hopes) and would be going to the stampede for sure if I didn't have class on the saturday (but alas my hat trick must go wanting)...

As for moving to Sydney =)

Sorry if I come off a little grumpy, but I've done the drive from bathurst to sydney for 4 years now (even for 2 games of Ultimate and then driven back) and it's not THAT far.

I still can't believe I talked you into doing that...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on March 03, 2009, 05:45:59 AM
Bathurst.... Orange....

Its all the same.

There is a bit of difference Danno... I don't want one tourney that had poor fields to undo all of the work that I have done in the Central West.

Tanty - I really wanted to go for a ride :-P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on March 03, 2009, 07:48:30 AM
At the regional Uni Games, clubs can enter as many teams as they want. However, at AUG only one team per university is allowed. This is a change from previous years where multiple teams could be entered.

Why is this, Simon?

If a university has enough players who are committed to going to uni games, surely they should be rewarded for their efforts at admin/recruiting/retention.

Further, for the boundless hordes of enthusiastic beginners who want to go to uni games (looking at you, Sydney and UTS) it's a bit of a slap in the face denying (any more than 16) of them pretty big tournament experience.

One team per division?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2009, 08:27:18 PM
One team per division would be lovely considering that we recruit people partyly encouraging them to go to uni games, but then they show up as a relative beginner to a try out and realise there are already virtually a full team from the last couple of years who have been playing 2 years or more.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JdR on March 03, 2009, 10:39:48 PM
If you're only using Uni Games to recruit with, then it time to start amping up other Uni tournaments then and make them awesome events.

But yeah, being able to send a team for each division would be very desirable.  Are the administrators really looking to keep the number down?

I wonder if the coordinator (Simmo) has any control of the eligibility rules and allow some flexibility say if a couple of experienced players from one Uni go to another Uni that doesn't have an Ulti-scene and gets a team together.  Could this evangelism justify bending the rules to let them come?

Also, what's the go with different campuses?  Can Griffith Nathan send a team as well as Griffith Gold Coast, or do they need to be one team?  Considering they're 80km apart, it'd be hard for them to train/select/etc.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JdR on March 03, 2009, 10:50:58 PM
Hey - if you miss Uni Games, why not go to the Indian Rim Asian University Games in Perth in December?

www.iraug.com.au


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 03, 2009, 11:46:12 PM
AUS really wants to get the regional Uni Games events happening again, and one of their moves is to restrict the number of teams who can go to AUG, to encourage them to go to the regionals instead. Eventually they're going to go back to qualifying for AUG - probably in 2011 when it's back on the Gold Coast.

That being said, a uni can have as many teams as they want at regionals. BUUF is planning to have two at SUG because, like Maple said, our AUG team is all but selected already.

It's certainly something I'll bring up in my meeting with AUS tomorrow, but even if we were to get it happening this year, it probably wouldn't happen in the future.

JdR - there is absolutely zero flexibility in the eligibility rules because the player's injury insurance comes from their campus sporting organisation. So if a UQ player gets injured playing under the banner of USQ, there would be no cover at all for them.

Griffith would be able to send teams from different campuses (Griffith Nathan and Griffith Gold Coast) to regionals but would have to compete as the one team (Griffith) at AUG.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 04, 2009, 06:37:45 PM
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AUS really wants to get the regional Uni Games events happening again, and one of their moves is to restrict the number of teams who can go to AUG, to encourage them to go to the regionals instead. Eventually they're going to go back to qualifying for AUG - probably in 2011 when it's back on the Gold Coast.

AUS should really pull its head out of the clouds and realize ultimate isn't like every other sport and by trying to package it in the same wrap as for football and all those other sports its just going to make things undesirable. The regional "uni games" are lame. They cost too much and you get too little out of them.

Last year we payed $110 to play against 5 other teams, four of which we had played at a uni IVs. UQ came to our regional games because queensland had two other teams.

If they are going to move back to using the regional games as qualifiers, what are they going to do for uni games? Say there are 16 team spots for AUGs. 4 go to Vic and NSW, 2 to Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia, 2 wildcards.

In NSW we have:
Newcastle
Usyd
Unsw
Mac
UTS
ANU (thats canberra right?)
CSU
UOW

UTS may not qualify, but they finished in 13th or something at AUGs. Which is quite respectable. They beat teams that would qualify under this scheme of breaking up the spots. I'm thinking especially of Queensland. Looking at the scores QUT (10-4)  and Griffith (12-8) both got beat by UTS.

Going back to the qualification scheme would certainly put the brakes on alot of uni ultimate development. Especially for those clubs like UTS that have an abundance of keen new players, but no high level tournaments to play in. Vicious cycle and all that.

Even if every single one of those teams attended EUGs, the top end is pretty well decided. How does that encourage people to attend when they know they: a) are going to get towelled by atleast 3 other teams and b) aren't going to qualify unless the knock off a uni team that came top 8 last year. Futility is the word. I remember beating UTS 15-0 at an IV in newcastle, it got our confidence up. But it really didn't help UTS any, they felt down and gave us a poor spirit score (probably justified). They didn't even have a chance to organize any offense or defense because we would get a turn on the first or second pass and then huck it past them for the score...

Quote from: boz
There is a bit of difference Danno... I don't want one tourney that had poor fields to undo all of the work that I have done in the Central West.

Thats the way of things boz.... Its like a plane crash, nobody cares when one lands without a hitch. But when one goes down less than perfectly, everybody knows about it.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on March 04, 2009, 07:56:17 PM
Hey - if you miss Uni Games, why not go to the Indian Rim Asian University Games in Perth in December?

www.iraug.com.au

Well praid sar!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 04, 2009, 09:26:00 PM
I'll address your post in full later, Dan, but the capacity back in the day for Ultimate was 20 teams, and we never reached it. Still haven't, actually.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on March 04, 2009, 11:23:15 PM
Dan you weren't around when EUG used to have ~15 teams and was more than just a qualifier for AUG's. It was great. With the top 4-5 teams fighting it out to win, the next bracket fighting it out for an AUG spot and then everyone else there just to have fun. If anything reinstating EUG as a qualifier will promote development, by providing a high class uni tournament locally that teams who aren't interested in attending AUG's will attend.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on March 04, 2009, 11:47:31 PM
Dan you weren't around when EUG used to have ~15 teams and was more than just a qualifier for AUG's. It was great. With the top 4-5 teams fighting it out to win, the next bracket fighting it out for an AUG spot and then everyone else there just to have fun. If anything reinstating EUG as a qualifier will promote development, by providing a high class uni tournament locally that teams who aren't interested in attending AUG's will attend.

Well said :)

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Quote from: boz
There is a bit of difference Danno... I don't want one tourney that had poor fields to undo all of the work that I have done in the Central West.

Thats the way of things boz.... Its like a plane crash, nobody cares when one lands without a hitch. But when one goes down less than perfectly, everybody knows about it.

Ripping on the fields in ORANGE is fair. They were terribly hard!
But by insinuating that they are exactly the same as the ones in BATHURST isn't fair!

Despite being within 60km of each other, the towns are VERY different and the tournies couldn't be MORE different!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on March 05, 2009, 01:10:10 AM
I'm probably a bit biased being from a team that wouldn't have made AUGs if EUGs was a qualifier (we came last in 08) but excluding teams from AUGs that want to go would be pretty harsh.  Especially basing it on results from a tournament 4 or so months beforehand.  4 months is quite a long time, and a team can improve dramatically over this period (eg. UTS not winning a game at EUGs, then winning 7 from 12 at AUGs).

If what you're talking about is that you have to play EUGs to play AUGs (doesn't matter how you go you just have to be there) then that's fine, I can deal with that, it'd encourage teams to get together and form a team early on.  If you're saying you're encouraging development in universities by excluding new teams/players from tournaments (AUGs) where they could learn the most about ultimate is very poor form though.

Chris, what you're noticing is probably a decline in the quality of uni ultimate due to a lot of the talent finally graduating, rather than one brought about because of EUGs not being a qualifier.  It is very hard to have a high quality tournament when there are only 3 or so teams that are competitive, while the rest are largely still developing.




Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on March 05, 2009, 05:57:54 AM
Dan you weren't around when EUG used to have ~15 teams and was more than just a qualifier for AUG's. It was great. With the top 4-5 teams fighting it out to win, the next bracket fighting it out for an AUG spot and then everyone else there just to have fun. If anything reinstating EUG as a qualifier will promote development, by providing a high class uni tournament locally that teams who aren't interested in attending AUG's will attend.

That's a pretty decent summary there... when I "cut my teeth" on the uni scene EUGs was just as big as AUGs... admittedly the scene has appeared to explode in recent years, but EUGs was just as awesome as AUGs from what my hazy memories tell me...
Mac would go to EUGs with the aims 1) Make it to AUGs 2) Not to get to badly thumped by UNSW (and usyd to a limited degree) 3) beat ANU and UTS
AUGs then had the aims 1) beat the non-NSW teams 2) Not to get to badly thumped by UNSW (and usyd to a limited degree) 3) beat ANU and UTS
Clearly times have changed a bit (clearly letting other states develop a uni scene was a mistake =P) but don't write off EUGs because the last few years where a bit IVish...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 05, 2009, 07:08:35 AM
Well, my meeting with AUS today was pretty sweet. No massive surprises, so I'll just clarify some things that people have posted about and that were talked about today.

- The 'qualification' thing is PURE SPECULATION BY ME. It's not definitely coming back in next year or the year after or in 2015. That is only my guess.
- No two teams at AUG. This is being enforced across all sports because AUG was at risk of becoming TOO big and therefore unmanageable. Melbourne had 6,300 competitors and any bigger was just not going to work. Sure, a 40 team AUG would be awesome but there's only X amount of places in the country that could host that.
- AUS want a small Div1 and a large Div2. I want a large Div1 and a small Div2. This will be negotiated in Semester 2 once we know how many teams are coming.

I'm pretty tired at the moment and my notes are still in the car. I'll think of more stuff tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on March 06, 2009, 12:23:03 AM
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UTS may not qualify, but they finished in 13th or something at AUGs. Which is quite respectable. They beat teams that would qualify under this scheme of breaking up the spots. I'm thinking especially of Queensland. Looking at the scores QUT (10-4)  and Griffith (12-8) both got beat by UTS.

Yes and i remember the 2005 UTS team that QUT beat 15-0. Teams change so quickly year to year but less from semester to semester. QUT has had a rather large influx of players ever this year with 3 league teams now, while most of them probably gonna play uni games the team will be stronger than last year with a couple of players with more than 6 months exp compared to 1.

That said i feel sorry for the Queensland uni teams that would have to go to NUGs and play the 1 other team 3 times and they have to go to qualify for AUGs


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 06, 2009, 02:19:42 AM
Speaking of NUG, Jangles, do you want to be Competition Manager?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Twig on March 06, 2009, 06:01:12 AM
Hi guys thought i'd give some insight from the other side of the country

As you can imagine our qualifying tournaments have never really been that great, with only 4 teams EVER showing up and even then you can count on one being complete beginners that have been pushed there by the uni just to get points for the state comp.  Traditionally our regionals would be run late march to early april which really sucks when trying to use it as a development tool for beginners and unis new to the sport (ie ECU who came 12th last year have only really had access to one ulti tournament a year in which to develop).  With that in mind we approached Tertiary Sports WA and asked to implement a 3 tournament championship as a trial for ulti only, which with some negotiating they accepted. 

this works on numerous levels the least of which is that the comps will generally be run by the individual uni clubs thus allowing some revenue/fundraising to come into the clubs rather than TSWA/AUS.  also as these are tournaments already in the calender it doesnt add to the work load of our volunteers and increases participation at these events.  I'm not sure of the set-up you guys have over there but you should def approach your state/regional body and see if they would include tournaments that are part of the IV league as qualifiers/east coast challenge points.

Twig

(nb UWA still requires its teams to come in the top 2 from the TSWA tournament in order to receive funding from the Uni, which i find is a good system as it makes you take the comp seriously)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 06, 2009, 04:16:56 PM
That's the long-term (2-3 year) thinking behind the IVy League, that it will eventually replace the regional Uni Games events. It's just that we'll need to have the structure in place and have run it successfully once or twice before AUS would consider it.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 08, 2009, 04:51:12 AM
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Dan you weren't around when EUG used to have ~15 teams and was more than just a qualifier for AUG's. It was great. With the top 4-5 teams fighting it out to win, the next bracket fighting it out for an AUG spot and then everyone else there just to have fun. If anything reinstating EUG as a qualifier will promote development, by providing a high class uni tournament locally that teams who aren't interested in attending AUG's will attend.

15 teams? So a couple of teams from some unis?

As for a "high class qualifying tournament" promoting development? That I have some qualms about, us towelling UTS 15 - 0 didn't help them develop. It might help some of the lower teams when they play each other because there is real incentive to beat the other side, but that is there normally. It doesn't help when the top 4 or 5 teams go and cream them.

@Henry, UTS are a wonderful example. Chumps in march, a decent uni squad in september. Uni ultimate changes very, very fast.... Its going to happen all over the country, but i think the biggest issue for teams that want to develop is quantity for some of their growth plan. They can't just play one quality tournament and expect to be awesome afterwards, they need to play some low level ones, some medium level ones and some high level ones just to get the experience up.

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- The 'qualification' thing is PURE SPECULATION BY ME. It's not definitely coming back in next year or the year after or in 2015. That is only my guess.
- No two teams at AUG. This is being enforced across all sports because AUG was at risk of becoming TOO big and therefore unmanageable. Melbourne had 6,300 competitors and any bigger was just not going to work. Sure, a 40 team AUG would be awesome but there's only X amount of places in the country that could host that.
- AUS want a small Div1 and a large Div2. I want a large Div1 and a small Div2. This will be negotiated in Semester 2 once we know how many teams are coming.

Pity about the no two teams rule. It would have helped alot of teams develop their player base. But we do have to remember, we are part of a bigger organization (with AUS) and we aren't the only competitors in the city to play uni games.

Large div 1 and a small div 2 full of teams that want to play in div 2. Otherwise there are going to be a bunch of teams that have the right to compete (deakin for one, Latrobe for another) and that CAN compete that won't be able to if it is a small div1. Latuuf were unlucky last year to be relegated out of the top 8 or whatever, we shouldn't force teams down to a second division otherwise they won't want to come.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 08, 2009, 07:32:24 AM
Back in 2006, both SUG and EUG had 12 teams each. There were some teams from the same uni but different campuses, so they never interacted before the event.

I remember 2006 being an awesome event. Melbourne and Adelaide were clearly the top two, then there was a bit of a dogfight for the next 5 (Ballarat, Flinders, Monash, Swinburne and Tassie), then the bottom 5 having fun (Latrobe Bundoora, UniSA, Deakin, RMIT and Latrobe Wodonga). It would be great if we could back to the levels of those days.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on March 08, 2009, 09:27:08 AM
(nb UWA still requires its teams to come in the top 2 from the TSWA tournament in order to receive funding from the Uni, which i find is a good system as it makes you take the comp seriously)

Mate, 'sif we take it seriosuly. We didnt even rock up to the match last year and let the freshers get the job done...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Twig on March 09, 2009, 02:01:46 AM
We still make sure the job gets done


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Meegs on March 10, 2009, 06:38:46 AM
Wow, just reading this, I can't believe uni ultimate has changed SOOO much! I did realise that a lot of the big name players finally got off their arses and graduated, but I can't believe some of the other stuff!

I played for UC, so have never actually been to AUGs because no one besides me and Shaun could ever be bothered (funnily enough, since we left the uni, they haven't been bothered to even play frisbee, so much for all the work we put in...) But EUGs was awesome. The last one I went to was 2005 and there were heaps of teams there (to answer your question Dan, there were teams from different campuses of unis) and we had a lot of fun.

Anyway, I'm at uni again this year (online!) so hoping to get back into it if Newie will have me :)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on March 11, 2009, 07:29:26 PM
Haha jangles, is there much point even booking accom if your only gonna last 24 hours? Might as well cut your losses and tent it at the fields. Also means you get another 15ish minutes sleep in in the morning.

I was thinking just park next to the party venue then you can wake up and drive to the field. less drunk walking, more drunk driving.

Speaking of NUG, Jangles, do you want to be Competition Manager?

How much you gonna pay me? if you can pay my wage while i take some time off then yes. so that is about $900 for the week.

Otherwise ill have a chat to a couple of people i think might be suited to the job.

PS. no idea of the make up of the QUT team other than having Reece "suferboy" Stewart as our new captain i think. Side note too he is first year of a 4 year degree so we could have our longest serving captain.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 12, 2009, 12:24:19 AM
Wow, just reading this, I can't believe uni ultimate has changed SOOO much! I did realise that a lot of the big name players finally got off their arses and graduated, but I can't believe some of the other stuff!

I played for UC, so have never actually been to AUGs because no one besides me and Shaun could ever be bothered (funnily enough, since we left the uni, they haven't been bothered to even play frisbee, so much for all the work we put in...) But EUGs was awesome. The last one I went to was 2005 and there were heaps of teams there (to answer your question Dan, there were teams from different campuses of unis) and we had a lot of fun.

Anyway, I'm at uni again this year (online!) so hoping to get back into it if Newie will have me :)

Oh, we'll have you meegs... Experienced female that can run and throw... What is not to like?

EUGs would be sooooo much better with more teams.

So, SUUFA has 3 team registered for its IV. UTS has 1 team in NSL, but i'm pretty sure they could pull a second from somewhere... We might get two.

If CSU, UNSW and Mac all bring one: that means around 10 teams for EUGs. Without counting ANU or some of those obscure unis.

But it is up to the individual unis if they actually wanna put in the effort and get the sides to EUGs. I can't understand how some people can think that sending more than 1 team could be bad for their club...

Quote from: jangles
PS. no idea of the make up of the QUT team other than having Reece "suferboy" Stewart as our new captain i think. Side note too e is first year of a 4 year degree so we could have our longest serving captain.

And then all the boys from AUGs08 all cried in one voice: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

What happened to sam bird?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on March 12, 2009, 01:39:41 AM
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And then all the boys from AUGs08 all cried in one voice: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

What happened to sam bird?

She is an accountant now. Who wants her to do their taxes?  ;)  That said we have some replacements on the way.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 12, 2009, 05:50:46 PM
Oh well, we'll have to find a new "Miss AUGs"....


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ash_5 on March 13, 2009, 07:18:17 AM
That we will..That we will...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on March 16, 2009, 09:16:47 PM
Haha. For sure. One of our freshers who was cameraman for the UWA v QUT match took like 1GB worth of photos of Sam. Its classic, all we got from the game against them was dozens of photos of sam bird running around. It was like there was only one person playing.



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chook on March 16, 2009, 11:27:08 PM
Haha. For sure. One of our freshers who was cameraman for the UWA v QUT match took like 1GB worth of photos of Sam. Its classic, all we got from the game against them was dozens of photos of sam bird running around. It was like there was only one person playing.

Fresher? I'm pretty sure the cameraman for that game in particular was Twiggy. Took his cleats off 2 points in and picked up the camera. The freshers were all on the field eager to try and steal some MVP points off you and Twig.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on March 17, 2009, 12:13:27 AM
Haha. For sure. One of our freshers who was cameraman for the UWA v QUT match took like 1GB worth of photos of Sam. Its classic, all we got from the game against them was dozens of photos of sam bird running around. It was like there was only one person playing.

Fresher? I'm pretty sure the cameraman for that game in particular was Twiggy. Took his cleats off 2 points in and picked up the camera. The freshers were all on the field eager to try and steal some MVP points off you and Twig.
I am pretty sure chooky got it right there. Simple solution move to brisbane!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Az06 on March 17, 2009, 06:25:47 AM
Thanks for saving me chooky. Twig took 20 straight of her butt while she was marking someone. Pissed my self when i was going through them.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Twig on March 17, 2009, 09:49:28 AM
I was only doing as an educational tool, trying to show future recruits how to mark


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 18, 2009, 12:48:50 AM
I was only doing as an educational tool, trying to show future recruits how to mark

Oh aye...

 ;D :D ;D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Az06 on March 18, 2009, 02:04:28 AM
Or how not to mark.....

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=808959&l=3e76321034&id=552124169


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 20, 2009, 03:53:53 AM
Right hand high: guarding against the scooba...

 ;D :D ;D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 20, 2009, 04:08:05 AM
Meanwhile uni clubs complain they can't recruit any women.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Az06 on March 20, 2009, 07:49:11 AM
And there you have a photo with two chicks, one with a great butt and boobs, and one with a great flick and boobs.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on March 21, 2009, 05:11:10 AM
I was only doing as an educational tool, trying to show future recruits how to mark

Hahahhahaa. Your just lucky Looodles doesnt read this blog...



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 22, 2009, 04:10:32 AM
Meanwhile uni clubs complain they can't recruit any women.

I don't think sexism is a problem. Just pitching the sport to females. The idea of "playing with dudes" is scary. Especially when those dudes are big, sweaty, loud, often inappropriate, sometimes taller and sometimes faster. Guys are soo much more "serious" about sport. We get sooo involved and soooo competitive. How is that attractive to a girl who just wants to get out there, have some fun and meet some nice people?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: frisWEE on March 22, 2009, 04:16:00 AM
mention the parties


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 22, 2009, 05:42:34 AM
I don't think sexism is a problem.
Sexism is a massive problem in uni/intermediate ultimate. How often do you see a non-Nationals female player getting the disc thrown to them?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Skippy on March 22, 2009, 07:46:39 PM
And there you have a photo with two chicks, one with a great butt and boobs, and one with a great flick and boobs.
I don't think sexism is a problem.

How do you view the women you play with?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 22, 2009, 10:40:23 PM
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Sexism is a massive problem in uni/intermediate ultimate. How often do you see a non-Nationals female player getting the disc thrown to them?

Well, first you pivot out, then you throw  ;D.

We had 5 nats players last year and 1 non-nats player... The 1 non-nats player was as much a part of the team as the five other girls. She certainly played better than we expected. And we expected a pretty good showing from her to start with!

In Newcastle our strength is in our women... When you come to uni games packing women of the calibre of Ellie and Teegs (the really really fast newcastle girl), of course it is going to be your strength. Our guys aren't super duper awesome. We have chilly and Chris Lavis, then the talent tapers off awfully fast.

So basically, it was our women that got us to such a high point in the uni games competition. And if you watched the AU game (where newcastle uni tanked hard), it was us dudes being scored on, not the women. Ultimately, the game is about scoring and not getting scored on. The women did their part, but us guys couldn't keep up.

Seriously though, the 1 non-nats girl at last year's AUGs had some awesome hands. I think she dropped like one or two passes over the entire tournament... I wracked up two drops in one game. Just a bit of comparison. Female Reciever compared to a Male Reciever.

I view the women that play ultimate with respect. Regardless of whether i am playing against them or on the same team as them.

If a girl doesn't get the disc very often it is because the handlers aren't trying hard enough. Most handlers will look off a pass if they think the reciever will drop it. In some cases, they think " girl = will drop anything i throw at this point". That kind of thinking is wrong. Most of the time, a girl can catch just as well as a guy. The only reason a reciever (guy or girl) should be ever looked off is if they are covered, or the wind makes the throw impossible (or you just can't get it to them). Certainly, I'd put the game in the hands of a female reciever just as often as I would put it in the hands of a male reciever. Why? Because it is mixed ultimate and the game is to win.

A girl could win the game just the same as a guy could win the game. And if you have a chance to win now, why put it on chance that you MIGHT be able to win later?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on March 23, 2009, 01:26:35 AM
How often do you see a non-Nationals female player getting the disc thrown to them?

ALL OF THE TIME... when you're from bathurst!
:-D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on March 23, 2009, 03:22:28 AM
How often do you see a non-Nationals female player getting the disc thrown to them?

ALL OF THE TIME... when you're from bathurst!
:-D

Depends on the thrower... Axe will quite happily look off any girl who hasn't played for Australia before (and possibly a few of them too)...

I still have small concerns about the number of girls at Mac (2 as of last count)... "Back in the old days" we seemed to have heaps, then they graduate (as expected... guys graduate too). It seems like clubs with lots of girls seem to attract girls and when you're low on them there seem to be fewer about...

I have visions of the Mac big wigs discussion "Hey Wongers, we need some girls don't we?" "Yeah Tiger we do..." "So where do we get them?" "dunno..." *awkward silence* "Lets go to Fakulti training..."

TG intended to lurk outside the netball/volleyball team trainings at UWS for those that didn't make the cut if he needed to pick up girls (possibly for the UWS team)...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 23, 2009, 06:15:38 AM
Yeah that's a tactic I used back in the day if it was close to SUG and we were up shit creek.

We've done quite well this year recruiting girls because that was what we focused on. Generally I've found that you need to take a more personal approach with girls - the same person that tells them about the sport is the same one that meets them at training and shows them how to throw and invites them along the next time.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on March 23, 2009, 10:51:08 AM
We've done quite well this year recruiting girls because that was what we focused on. Generally I've found that you need to take a more personal approach with girls - the same person that tells them about the sport is the same one that meets them at training and shows them how to throw and invites them along the next time.

UWA has put a big emphasis on recuiting women too. Although admittedly the recruitment tactic of Twiggy taking his shirt off may have missed the mark by a little bit...

Although UWA Ultimate did win best stall at O-Day....


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 24, 2009, 03:47:00 AM
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TG intended to lurk outside the netball/volleyball team trainings at UWS for those that didn't make the cut if he needed to pick up girls (possibly for the UWS team)...

In the bushes?  ;D :D ;D

There are good years and bad years for ultimate. Two years ago there were 4 super keen dudes sign up to play ultimate at newcastle uni. They were myself, chilly and two others. Last year, we had sweet fuck all in terms of "keen" players. We ended up picking up one dude at the end of last year and that was about it. This year there are couple that might hang around, but it seems to hang heavily on who they are as people.

I've used every tactic from bribery to "I don't care what you do" to "please come, we love you". Doesn't seem to have an effect on the end decision. So I teach everyone equally and hope to god someone is going to pick up the sport.

I pitched uni games harder this year as well and we got less result compared to last year. Melb > Queensland, go figure.... I refuse to believe it. THere are good years and bad years.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on March 25, 2009, 09:20:20 PM
hehe just got 3 new girls for one of my monday night teams all over 6 foot tall and athletic and better yet can catch. i havent scored a goal for that team in weeks. thrown plenty though.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: timill on March 26, 2009, 08:32:28 AM
just got 3 new girls for one of my monday night teams

How many teams do you have?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: wetnose on March 26, 2009, 06:33:13 PM
just got 3 new girls for one of my monday night teams

How many teams do you have?

QUT has 3 league teams, up from barely 1 previously.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on March 26, 2009, 06:58:04 PM
So QUT is going to keep following the "top 10 in odd years, bottom in even years" trend?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: wetnose on March 26, 2009, 07:30:55 PM
So QUT is going to keep following the "top 10 in odd years, bottom in even years" trend?
Yes, which also works out as "top 10 in AUG's held in QLD, bottom in anything we have to travel to"


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Meegs on March 29, 2009, 10:09:17 PM
I don't think sexism is a problem.
Sexism is a massive problem in uni/intermediate ultimate. How often do you see a non-Nationals female player getting the disc thrown to them?

Or a nationals player for that matter?? I'm refusing to play league anymore because there's no point! Beginner guys won't throw to me or any other girl on the team. It happens time and time again.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on March 30, 2009, 07:45:42 PM
So QUT is going to keep following the "top 10 in odd years, bottom in even years" trend?

Well yeh but that is only because we dont have med students. As for the 3 league teams it is sort 2 and half as we have 2 div 2 teams and then they combine and add some to form a div 1 team. yeh 2 game monday nights!!!! They are still stuck with me as captain though so they haven't learnt from their mistakes.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on March 31, 2009, 09:37:53 PM
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Or a nationals player for that matter?? I'm refusing to play league anymore because there's no point! Beginner guys won't throw to me or any other girl on the team. It happens time and time again.

2 options: play on a team with a strong captain that kicks guys that do that.
Or: "educate" the chumps on what mixed ultimate is really about...

Everyone on the team should be looking to advance the disc and pass it to the "good" players where possible. You can pound goals with the best of them (as can basically every nats level player) and if I throw you the disc so you can pound goals (or score them) I figure i've done my job and i've done good for the team. Maybe you should let these beginners know that...

Or be evil and look off them  ;D  :D ;D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on April 03, 2009, 01:01:11 AM
Don't know how many teams have people who read this, but I'll be looking to catch up in person with at least someone from each club at Nationals to go over what the plans for the season are.

Plus stay tuned for the announcement of IVy League...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on April 04, 2009, 07:33:18 PM
Better hurry up with that.

We needed to know by february... Unis are putting together their tournament calendars and if there are going to be "requirements", its going to be asking alot to get things changed.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on April 05, 2009, 12:37:32 AM
Better hurry up with that.

We needed to know by february... Unis are putting together their tournament calendars and if there are going to be "requirements", its going to be asking alot to get things changed.

Because uni frisbee players are so incredibly organised and have all their weekends planned 3 months in advance??

Props to the Newcastle kids for being on top of things if that's the case, but I dunno, doesn't seem like a massive deal to me... although maybe in Qld we don't have much in the way of uni lead-up tourneys, so we don't have the same issue with planning calendars...
Guess it also depends on the details of the IVy league - travel required, whether it affects qualification, planned dates, etc...

Oh, and Pissy, I'll save you the time: UQ's plans are to beat BUUF in the AUG final by nine and then spend the next year talking about how we served up our own brand of justice...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on April 05, 2009, 04:38:42 AM
I'm honoured that you think we'll be in the final.

IVy League changes nothing about existing tournaments. Just gives the weekend IV tournaments a bit more meaning.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on April 05, 2009, 05:24:56 AM
I'm honoured that you think we'll be in the final.

IVy League changes nothing about existing tournaments. Just gives the weekend IV tournaments a bit more meaning.

Doesn't the meaning come from the party? That's where I used to find my meaning. Back at uni with my first IV in a while yesterday and that's where I found my meaning


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on April 06, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
Better hurry up with that.

We needed to know by february... Unis are putting together their tournament calendars and if there are going to be "requirements", its going to be asking alot to get things changed.

Because uni frisbee players are so incredibly organised and have all their weekends planned 3 months in advance??

Props to the Newcastle kids for being on top of things if that's the case, but I dunno, doesn't seem like a massive deal to me... although maybe in Qld we don't have much in the way of uni lead-up tourneys, so we don't have the same issue with planning calendars...
Guess it also depends on the details of the IVy league - travel required, whether it affects qualification, planned dates, etc...

Oh, and Pissy, I'll save you the time: UQ's plans are to beat BUUF in the AUG final by nine and then spend the next year talking about how we served up our own brand of justice...

Well, i'm finding things are alot easier if you are getting people to put dates down several months in advance. That way they can plan their life around ultimate.  ;D

Pretty sure most of the nsw uni's plan what tournaments they are going to attend and have some sort of calendar (even if it is only in someone's head).


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on April 07, 2009, 06:16:59 AM
Pretty sure most of the nsw uni's plan what tournaments they are going to attend and have some sort of calendar (even if it is only in someone's head).

Sounds logical, but:

Mac, at the very least (and I'm going to go ahead and assume that the following is the case for all the NSW universities other than Sydney and maybe UTS who seem to have player hordes innumerable) are limited by which players can attend which tournaments, and if they will ever have enough girls to even put in a team.

In my (albeit pretty limited experience) you have two types of people who play frisbee for university clubs: hardcores (which is basically all of us here because we're on an internet forum dedicated to the game) and civilians. Hardcores will know in advance of years whether or not they can play a tournament, and generally always will.

With civilians it doesn't make a difference whether they find out about a tournament months or days in advance, they will always respond with 'yeah, maybe' and won't make a decision until a few days before the first game.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on April 07, 2009, 06:57:35 AM
With newbies I've found the best way is to get the date in their mind early, and repeatedly mention it every week, but don't go into it. Eventually they come to you for more details ("so what's the go with that? how much is it going to cost?") and from there you know they're keen.

But as Tiger said, the hardcore nerds commit early. Just look at our Stampede rego page - the usual suspects are signed up already, and it's only in the last week or so that our newbies are coming to me saying "...this Bathurst trip, can I put my name down for it?"

And I cannot stress enough how effective pre-payment is in getting people to commit. If they've already shelled out $20 two weeks ago, they're going to rock up on the day. If you've left them to um-and-ah about it till the night before then you've got very little hope.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on April 11, 2009, 02:40:50 AM
Someone a while back mentioned that the roster size might be increased to 18, has there been any news regarding this?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on April 28, 2009, 07:48:17 AM
Uni season! Yay!

Regional Uni Games on the cards...
NUG: USC Sports Precinct, Sippy Downs. Comp Manager TBA.
EUG: Morse Park, Bathurst. Comp Manager - Bozza.
SUG: Princess Park, Parkville. Comp Manager - TBA.

With regards to talk of breakaway comps, my official AFDA stance is that I want nothing to do with them. If someone else wants to do it then go nuts.

NUG: I really want to see this get off the ground since the North is our big growth area over the next three years since AUG is there in 09 and 11. I know Southern Cross are trying to get a team together, so if Griffith, QUT and UQ (why not send a B team or two?) could get there that would be great.

EUG: I'm assuming most of your lot are participating, as per last year. Don't think Wollongong will be back since I haven't heard from them all year, but you never know. CSU? It's in their backyard.

SUG: Ballarat, Latrobe and Deakin have committed to going because their campus sport body has said 'no SUG, no AUG' which is harsh but it's their job to increase participation in the regional events. New club at Vic Uni should be there. No idea about the SA unis (Rodes? Joel?)

AUG venue and TD are close to confirmed. Can't say the venue yet but it's not Southport unfortunately. Let's make it the biggest ever, yeah?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on April 28, 2009, 08:45:20 AM
I know this will vary as per each uni's sporting requirements, but the package I have to buy to play EUG's  for Mac is $400. Frankly, that's not worth it for me. As someone who is saving up for a mixed campaign (uni and club), another Melbourne Hat trip, World Clubs next year and all the non-essentials like textbooks and groceries, it just doesn't seem worth it.

Everyone I've spoken to about this from my uni (ie just Nathan Wong) finds it similarly ludicrous and most likely won't be going, especially given that there's another mixed frisbee tournament in Bathurst that will cost me one quarter what EUG's is asking, if that.

I know right. I was totally excited about the mixed season, too.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on April 28, 2009, 09:21:50 AM
Aye, I understand that. As odd as this sounds, I would prefer an attitude of "I can't afford to go even though I want to" than "fuck that, I ain't paying that much." It is helpful if you communicate that to your union as well (although in Mac's case I doubt it will get anywhere) so they have a clear message of 'your shit costs too much' when they sit down and work out why they aren't winning medals.

Does that make sense?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on April 28, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
I'd definately talk to your sporting union.

As to a breakaway tourney, yeah, its a good idea: but. It will require someone to run it (and a venue and all that admin stuff), it isn't strictly "uni games" and there are teams that won't come simply because their sporting union will kick them in the ass.

I think we should just try to make EUGs as awesome as possible. 12+ teams. Newcastle is currently looking ok (ish) for 2 teams. I hope Suufa, UTS and the others are all trying to get together as many teams as possible. I'm sure Boz won't mind if he has to put together a gigantic draw :D .

I'm sure if Wongers went to the mac sporting dude (i'd take hari too... in his "NSW Uni Co-Ordinator" capacity) and said: look, we can't afford that. Some of our best players are really, really tight not to mention that if it costs less, we can spend more on winning medals and pendants. If they cut out the bags, team kits, team accomodation and all that stuff, you could get down to a resonable amount. But that is something mac ultimate needs to sort out.

CSU are picking up steam. Now that mark is out that way with amy and a few other weirdos, they will probably get a team together.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Shaunie81 on April 29, 2009, 02:13:43 AM
SUG: Ballarat, Latrobe and Deakin have committed to going because their campus sport body has said 'no SUG, no AUG'

Deakin's going because all the other Victorian Uni's have committed to going.


@Tiger: That sucks. you could try asking AUS to talk to Mac about it (Deakin did that last year's AUG's to get our cost slashed in nearly half - originally $600 for a tourney in our backyard almost). I'm sure Pissy there would be willing to do that again :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on April 29, 2009, 03:31:32 AM
Apparently it's being held at Runaway Bay sports fields at the gold coast or something Simmo

http://www.unigames.com.au/_uploads/res/1_2529.pdf


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on April 29, 2009, 03:53:37 AM
I've been in contact with AUS today and apparently we have ELEVEN teams signed up :)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on April 29, 2009, 04:09:08 AM
@Tiger: That sucks. you could try asking AUS to talk to Mac about it (Deakin did that last year's AUG's to get our cost slashed in nearly half - originally $600 for a tourney in a backyard almost). I'm sure Pissy there would be willing to do that again :P
Different story there, Shaun. DUSA is still a student-led organisation but MacSport is privately run. I can definitely assisted Wongers in pursuing it but we might not be so lucky.

Apparently it's being held at Runaway Bay sports fields at the gold coast or something Simmo

http://www.unigames.com.au/_uploads/res/1_2529.pdf
Ah ok, didn't know it was confirmed.

In other news, make sure you're there for the opening ceremony on the Sunday - it will be awesome! Can't give away too much but the words 'theme' and 'park' are being thrown around.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on April 29, 2009, 05:21:51 AM
SUG: Ballarat, Latrobe and Deakin have committed to going because their campus sport body has said 'no SUG, no AUG' which is harsh but it's their job to increase participation in the regional events. New club at Vic Uni should be there. No idea about the SA unis (Rodes? Joel?)

We got a similar story; no SUG = Div 2 at AUG. AU will send a team to SUG although I don't know how representative it will be of the AUG squad. I know for one that I won't be able to attend SUG if I want to be able to get time off work for AUG and Mixed Nats.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2009, 09:35:05 AM
We wanted to send 2 teams to eug, but SU Sport wont allowus. Bretttried his best, but apparently it means more staff that they have to povide for supervision and other junk, so no go. that kinda sucks for us, meaning alot of keen players will miss out, and i thinka B team would have suprisingly competitive, but we'll nver know.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JdR on April 29, 2009, 06:16:28 PM
So have those stimulus payments arrived yet?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: AlecD on April 29, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
On the talk of unigames costs (and wording up your uni sports association):

it's definitely worth mentioning that many students (helpful if you can cite those in your club) are elite competitors, i.e. play at a national level (if not international) and that this is all self-funded. Hence, unigames comes after those competitions, so if the uni sports associations want the strongest possible team from their uni to attend, with the best chance of success, they need to cost participation respectively. Many unis offer scholarships that include some limited support for unigames costs (Flinders does), but generally it's only one or two elite players per sport.

Luckily we've had a great relationship with FUSA over the past few years, and with this they always give us the opportunity for input about the type of accommodation and other arrangements for unigames.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on April 30, 2009, 02:56:13 AM
We wanted to send 2 teams to eug, but SU Sport wont allowus. Bretttried his best, but apparently it means more staff that they have to povide for supervision and other junk, so no go. that kinda sucks for us, meaning alot of keen players will miss out, and i thinka B team would have suprisingly competitive, but we'll nver know.

Dave, <b>ask Simmo to chase Brettski up to chase this.</b>
That's a bunch of shit that the SU won't let you do this! Tell them Bozza will look after the second team!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on April 30, 2009, 06:26:35 AM
I've been in contact with AUS today and apparently we have ELEVEN teams signed up :)


WOOT!!!!

I bet you Nudiscs wasn't on that list  ;D .

We wanted to send 2 teams to eug, but SU Sport wont allowus. Bretttried his best, but apparently it means more staff that they have to povide for supervision and other junk, so no go. that kinda sucks for us, meaning alot of keen players will miss out, and i thinka B team would have suprisingly competitive, but we'll nver know.

That bites the big one. Suufa is THE biggest ultimate frisbee club in australia and a second team from suufa would pwn well over half the teams in australia. Makes no sense SU would want to handicap their strong (bordering on dominant) position in the sport.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on April 30, 2009, 06:46:26 AM
Much like Mac, SU Sport is a privately run organisation. If they don't want to expend money on extra stuff, then they don't have to. It may be worth having a word to them saying that a 2nd ultimate team doesn't require extra personnel (trainers, coaches, etc), but my guess is they have just applied a blanket policy to all sports.

Maple, who spoke to the SU Sport people (I'm assuming Brett did)? I could draft a letter to them if you want. Just need to know a few more details on their stance.

Bozza, do you mind letting me know via email who those 11 teams are? I'm uber-keen to make contact with new teams this year as early as possible to try and hook them in long term.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2009, 10:11:58 AM
yeah, brett did, you would have to speak to him about any actual details...i was just proliferating internet time wastage material. they dont give a shit about coaches and stuff as far as i know, its more to do with more people = more staff required. I dont know whether that is a finacial decision or a hassle one, apparentl it was a pretty firm no, but again no idea. If you wanna draft a letter to them better do it fast (ie email brett...who will probably read this anyway but whatever) bcause they want registration soon and i think we are picking our team in a few weeks as well.

i am sure UQ may have something to say about us being the biggest as well.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on April 30, 2009, 08:55:41 PM
Wow, long time since I've been on here.

SUSF restricted clubs to one team per sport/division. Unfortunately this means we only have one team due to only having a mixed division. Soccer get 1x mens, 1x womens etc.
If sports have multiple teams, it gets too difficult to manage, since you may almost double the number of rowdy uni games players. When SUSF don't really care about EUGs, can't really expect them to devote much time/money - they already do alot for us. We could have almost fielded 3 teams.

HOWEVER, there will be a cumberland campus team from usyd. These chumps are a party team that suufa has no association with, and unfortunately hence prevent some of our cumbo players (hammer, carol, heather) from playing with main campus. Don't hold back :D

SUSF are mainly concerned with AUGs, which they do a fantastic job organising for us (I'm already going to meetings for it - jeez) and suufa is putting alot of time and money into getting some gold bling this year.

A more important matter in my opinion is the restrictions on team numbers. I'm sorry, but 16 players for a 5 day tournament just doesn't cut it. I tried to appeal to AUS through SUSF but was told the policies are concrete for 2009, so perhaps simmo you can try get it bumped up to 18 for 2010?

This is going to be a HOT uni games season, Flinders, BUUF, Monash, all going to be major threats alongside usyd this year. Expect to see UTS do even better than last year.

PS. Flinders lose Erin and Alec, and possibly Joel's shoudler, but gain sweet as etc. HOT.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on April 30, 2009, 09:00:22 PM
Brettski - Did you want to fight to take multiple teams?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on April 30, 2009, 09:39:53 PM

PS. Flinders lose Erin and Alec, and possibly Joel's shoudler, but gain sweet as etc. HOT.

yeh flinders!!!!!!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 01, 2009, 02:45:38 AM
Brettski - Did you want to fight to take multiple teams?

Well I pretty much did - I know all the people in charge there, and they put their foot down straight away when I approached them. The thing is, if they make an exception for us, then they have to allow it for everyone.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 01, 2009, 02:52:39 AM

PS. Flinders lose Erin and Alec, and possibly Joel's shoudler, but gain sweet as etc. HOT.

yeh flinders!!!!!!!

noooo kiely.......

I think SUSF has to realize that success at AUGs is directly related to how big/deep your club is. Clubs grow through retention of members and the talent at those clubs increases with more tournaments played. By sending 2 teams to EUGs, they increase the depth through experience and the retention of members because everyone wants to play AUGs not just crappy lil' EUGs.

Ultimate isn't like "every other sport". It is completely unique. At Newcastle, Nusport is of the mind: take as many teams as you want. Basically because clubs field one or two (three at the outside) and leave it at that. I don't expect the earth open up and swallow Newcastle whole because we don't have a hard and fast rule... Maybe you can point that out to SUSF? Other uni's make it work. NuSport is also a privately owned Fitness Company, so are just as concerned with the bottom line as SUSF and MacSport.

Another issue is space, TDs normally can say which teams attend and which teams don't. I daresay everyone would agree with a 3rd Suufa team being dropped so a 'Gong team could compete or something similar.

UQ didn't show last year thus have no say in that matter.  ;D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 01, 2009, 03:02:08 AM
I know this will vary as per each uni's sporting requirements, but the package I have to buy to play EUG's  for Mac is $400. Frankly, that's not worth it for me. As someone who is saving up for a mixed campaign (uni and club), another Melbourne Hat trip, World Clubs next year and all the non-essentials like textbooks and groceries, it just doesn't seem worth it.

Everyone I've spoken to about this from my uni (ie just Nathan Wong) finds it similarly ludicrous and most likely won't be going, especially given that there's another mixed frisbee tournament in Bathurst that will cost me one quarter what EUG's is asking, if that.

I know right. I was totally excited about the mixed season, too.

Yeah it's bullshit how much we're getting charged... but given I just paid my first installment and I'm back for the first time in 5 years I'm sorry Tiggsie you have to come... If you don't I'm going to bitch slap you all the way to Bathurst... and then I'll tell Hayley that you're not going to EUGs with her, and what she will do to you if you don't go will make a bitch slapping seem pleasant...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 01, 2009, 10:09:03 AM
Hey Tiger.... I may need a 2nd in charge..
Since I've had muffin work with me before and there is already a cupcake... I could call you Cookie (as in Gingernut) if you want to come and work for Bozz (meaning you only need to sort out accommodation and beer/food (notice which one came first!)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 02, 2009, 11:44:18 PM
I'm scheduling a meeting with those in charge of SUSF, including trying to get my hands on policies etc that simmo you can use to perhaps draft a letter.

Not going to give up just yet...

Just to check, AUGs is 2 divisions this year, and we can choose where to enter our team?

Thanks


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 04, 2009, 07:07:44 PM
You can choose. But as medalists last year, you'll be in div 1.

Brett-ems, you get a second suufa team in, i'll buy you a beer.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on May 04, 2009, 09:55:11 PM
Woot QUT and UQ have pretty much ditched NUG's to my knowledge. UQ was thinking EUG's.

As for AUG from queensland you can expect GU (headed by cupcake), QUT (headed by Reece Stewart with an international flavour) and UQ (if they get girls, Full nats level guys though). SCU is trying to get a team together although it will be crap probably.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 04, 2009, 10:35:13 PM
Just to check, AUGs is 2 divisions this year, and we can choose where to enter our team?
Strictly speaking, this is how it will work...

- Your uni applies to be in a division via your Uni Team Manager

- AUS comes to me with a list of who has registered in what division

- I'll review and provide a recommendation of who goes where. If I want to make a change to where a team applied to go, it will be after discussions with the team. Law of common sense will apply (eg: if UQ apply to be in Div2, I'll tell them to stop being knobs and put them in Div1). This also happens with seedings and draw format.

- AUS will then consider my recommendations and release the draw, complete with divisions and seedings. Last year we were fortunate enough to have AUS accept my recommended seedings and draw format, but not timeslots and field layout. They still have the final say in everything.


I'm keen to see a 16 team Div1 and 8-10 team Div2. At the moment, AUS want it the other way around. But if enough teams apply for Div1 and I can provide a draw structure for the large-Div1-small-Div2 setup that works, they'll probably accept it because it means less work for them.

I should note at this point there's going to be less games per team this year (8-9 for Div1, 7-8 for Div2) based on recommendations from last year's team manager's meeting, plus the fact we have more teams and same field space.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ash_5 on May 06, 2009, 12:10:53 AM
just wondering if anyone is getting Five Ultimate gear for any of their teams this year??


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on May 06, 2009, 12:14:23 AM
just wondering if anyone is getting Five Ultimate gear for any of their teams this year??

Monash are thinking about it as the Monash Sport provided uniforms are hideous. Will depend on fundraising and overall team consensus


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 06, 2009, 04:00:13 AM
BUUF went with Zone this year. They're pretty flexible with printing options and will adapt to whatever design you can come up with. Cheap, too.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 06, 2009, 08:32:38 AM
BUUF went with Zone this year. They're pretty flexible with printing options and will adapt to whatever design you can come up with. Cheap, too.

So are we.

Yo Jangles, QUT and UQ are most welcome at EUGs. Its the place to be this year. 12 teams in and the rego doesn't close for another week or so. It will be awesome. UQ were certainly plenty of fun last year.

If any of you southern teams wanna come play a real regional uni tournament, you should think about coming to EUGs too.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 06, 2009, 09:53:31 AM
USYD are given shorts for AUGs, and we are sticking with gregros for our shirts - keep an eye out for our new dark strip at AUGs! Actually it's pretty much the inverse of last years white strip, but cool nonetheless.

Never heard of Zone before, will have to check them out...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ash_5 on May 06, 2009, 10:55:23 AM
yeah, im pretty sure im gonna get Zone for MUD, cheap as..just that a few mates and I were interested in gettin some Five gear and i thought instead of gettin an order for us, if anyones doin one already, id just put our order in along with theirs, pay for some of the shipping and then get it shipped over to WA...

mmmmm might have to do some trading Brettski :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on May 06, 2009, 06:55:55 PM
Never heard of Zone before, will have to check them out...

http://www.frisbeeclothing.com

Base shirt price includes name and number printing. Only $1 USD for front logo printing. Prices are pretty much unbeatable. They also reduce shipping costs as they ship from Vietnam (where they are produced) instead of having to come from the US.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 07, 2009, 02:25:10 AM
I'm putting in a 5 ultimate order for some shorts.  Not sure if I'd be keen to ship things to perth though... :P

So far I've got about 30 odd pairs of shorts on the order list, and they should work out to be less than $30 AUD including shipping


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 07, 2009, 07:47:36 AM
Never heard of Zone before, will have to check them out...

They did the Melb hat stuff from last year... you'd have seen that around. And the Captain Mel shirts and a host of others you can see about the place


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ash_5 on May 07, 2009, 11:00:20 AM
I'm putting in a 5 ultimate order for some shorts.  Not sure if I'd be keen to ship things to perth though... :P

So far I've got about 30 odd pairs of shorts on the order list, and they should work out to be less than $30 AUD including shipping

Yeah im keen on getting some shorts..I'd pay for the shipping to Perth...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on May 07, 2009, 08:19:08 PM
I'm putting in a 5 ultimate order for some shorts.  Not sure if I'd be keen to ship things to perth though... :P

It'd be simple to ship to Perth and probably cost the same as shipping them anywhere.

Pickup a 500g AusPost Parcel Satchel (http://www.auspost.com.au/BCP/0,1467,CH2387%257EMO19,00.html), $5.50 each or $4.95 each if you buy a pack of 10


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 10, 2009, 04:34:39 AM
I got an email from the Mac Uni sports association the other day

Looks like mac is out of EUGs

=(

Lame


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 11, 2009, 05:42:44 AM
I got an email from the Mac Uni sports association the other day

Looks like mac is out of EUGs

=(

Lame

Why?

Lack of numbers?

Regardless, that sucks hard... We'll just have to have an awesome time without you guys...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on May 11, 2009, 08:54:57 PM
there should be a queensland IV happening on the gold coast about the same time. Stefan and cupcake are organising so the parties should be sweet. Plus it will be much cheaper for all involved as it is independant of AUS.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 12, 2009, 06:09:57 AM
Lack of numbers?

Lack of numbers because apparently 90% of the club couldn't afford it...

So Lame

But if Bozz needs a helper maybe I'll get there without the club


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 12, 2009, 07:36:25 AM
there should be a queensland IV happening on the gold coast about the same time. Stefan and cupcake are organising so the parties should be sweet. Plus it will be much cheaper for all involved as it is independant of AUS.

Same time as what? Christmas? EUGs?

Tanty, you probably need to give that stat to macsport....


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 12, 2009, 05:09:46 PM
there should be a queensland IV happening on the gold coast about the same time. Stefan and cupcake are organising so the parties should be sweet. Plus it will be much cheaper for all involved as it is independant of AUS.

Same time as what? Christmas? EUGs?

Tanty, you probably need to give that stat to macsport....

Dan, not sure you actually get the point of EUG's and know why it costs so much...

To make the EUG experience happen, AUS need to employ staff for months before to sort out competition managers, fields, liasing with councils, draws, merch, party passes and some other stuff. The fees that competitors go a ways to help pay for this.

EUG's is more than just another ultimate tourney. It's an experience. I first started playing Ultimate so I could attend Uni Games because that is the only way you could play Ultimate in Bathurst. As someone who has had to recruit before, it is easier to get people to come and play for your club if you say you are going to Unigames. Peeps come for the experience and are willing to pay for it. It's harder to get people to come and play a weekend tourney, EVEN if it is right in there backyard.

From my experience getting into the game, playing at Uni Games taught me about the sport, which in turned got me organising stuff in bathurst to now where there is a club and an annual tourney. I'm not saying that this will always happen, but if Ultimate leaves Uni Games, the possibility of getting new players into the game through this avenue ceases to happen.

Tiger has talked about the two different types of Ultimate Players before and that idea applies here. The hardcore Ultimate player with be happy to pay less and play at just another tourney. The casual or new ultimate player is happy to pay more to play Uni Games because it is Uni Games.

Simmo can help clarify, but next year to get to AUG's... You need to go through EUG's. I guess players are going to have to start picking and choosing their tourneys more carefully so they can afford to go to the ones that they want.

Enough ranting, time to head to school!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on May 12, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Simmo can help clarify, but next year to get to AUG's... You need to go through EUG's.

When the shit did this happen?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on May 12, 2009, 10:13:30 PM

I hope the change back to EUG's as a qualifier for AUG's happens. I know it doesn't work quite as well in other regions with less teams but for NSW I think it's great. Now if only we could get those sporting associations who make their players buy ridiculous uni games packages to stop (looking at you Macquarie uni sport) then EUG may return to its former glory.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 12, 2009, 10:36:10 PM
The $400 package is on par with what other uni's are offering to their players.
Although having to take the team bus to the games is a crock, but it is one less thing for players to worry about...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 13, 2009, 01:58:46 AM
I just think it's really funny that it only cost me $50 more for the Gold Coast in 07, and that included an extra night or two accommodation in a room that had a corner view of surfers paradise beach which was literally across the road.  No offense to Bathurst but I think that the Gold Coast was a much better deal (and probably will be again this year).

I guess the problem is that teams aren't used to having to front up wads of cash for accommodation for EUGs.  Even UQ last year would've gotten EUGs cheaper last year than it will cost the vast majority of us this year.

It's not AUS's fault though I guess, it's just the stupid uni packages.  If we organised our accommodation at the same place we're staying for the Stampede it would only cost us about $30 a night max...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 13, 2009, 02:58:36 AM
Any chance you could communicate this with your university?
At CSU we had different packages to pick from. One that had everything (including accomodation and travel) and one that excluded accommodation and travel...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 13, 2009, 03:12:45 AM
Last time I spoke to simmo EUGs wasn't becoming a qualifier. Unless he is holding out on us, I wasn't aware that was the case. I personally would like to see it happen. However if I was at mac uni, i would definately be against it.

Tournament fees for EUGS: $105 and AUGs was $140 or something. Pretty cool and i'm not debating the tournament fee. (Certainly, Id like to see us get lunches included as well as some other stuff) Boz, you are preaching to the choir though. I could guess how much it actually cost to put together the commercialized EUGs tournament and the figure would be somewhere around the $100 mark per player, that is for sure.

What I am saying is that Mac is charging $400 that an ultimate player could spend $150 on and be fine. As a result, they have less players (well, no players) willing to go. They should be charging nothing. That way they have players go along and their uni is in the mix. Then for uni games they should be slugging them with this cost because there is more reason. Finding $800 to play two tournaments bites. I'd rather spend that $800 and go play kaimana or something.

The problem is uni sports charging for compulsory packages. If our uni brought something like that in, i'd get on the warpath and our uni co-ordinator would first get a letter every week with reasons why it should be changed back. Then i would move on and get letters from other sports agreeing with me.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chook on May 13, 2009, 05:15:06 AM
Maybe instead of complaining about it, get the players to get out there and do some fundraising. UWA has had lawn bowls afternoons, sold chocolates and delivered junk mail in the past, all took little time to organise, required a bit of commitment and generated good money to help out the players.



 


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 13, 2009, 05:17:43 AM
Last time I spoke to simmo EUGs wasn't becoming a qualifier.
When did I ever say that? Won't be a qualifier this year. Might be next year. Definitely in 2011.

The problem is uni sports charging for compulsory packages. If our uni brought something like that in, i'd get on the warpath and our uni co-ordinator would first get a letter every week with reasons why it should be changed back. Then i would move on and get letters from other sports agreeing with me.
That's the way to go about it.

Incidentally, here's what Ballarat uni charge...
SUGs: $240 (3 nights accom, fees, transport pass, social events, squad shirt) or $190 without accom
AUGs: $775 (flights, 5 nights accom, fees, transport pass, social events) or $495 without flights

The difference between us and a lot of unis is that there's not much competition to make the team. I don't recall anyone ever missing Uni Games because they didn't make a team. It's the whole supply/demand thing.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on May 13, 2009, 06:45:05 AM
The difference between us and a lot of unis is that there's not much competition to make the team. I don't recall anyone ever missing Uni Games because they didn't make a team. It's the whole supply/demand thing.

Honestly, does any uni apart from Sydney and UTS have to cut people to make 16 players?

I would really like to know. Anyone from UQ listening?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 13, 2009, 07:43:02 AM
EUG's is more than just another ultimate tourney. It's an experience. I first started playing Ultimate so I could attend Uni Games because that is the only way you could play Ultimate in Bathurst. As someone who has had to recruit before, it is easier to get people to come and play for your club if you say you are going to Unigames. Peeps come for the experience and are willing to pay for it. It's harder to get people to come and play a weekend tourney, EVEN if it is right in there backyard.

From my experience getting into the game, playing at Uni Games taught me about the sport, which in turned got me organising stuff in bathurst to now where there is a club and an annual tourney. I'm not saying that this will always happen, but if Ultimate leaves Uni Games, the possibility of getting new players into the game through this avenue ceases to happen.

Tiger has talked about the two different types of Ultimate Players before and that idea applies here. The hardcore Ultimate player with be happy to pay less and play at just another tourney. The casual or new ultimate player is happy to pay more to play Uni Games because it is Uni Games.

Simmo can help clarify, but next year to get to AUG's... You need to go through EUG's. I guess players are going to have to start picking and choosing their tourneys more carefully so they can afford to go to the ones that they want.

Enough ranting, time to head to school!!

I'm with Bozz... EUGs used to be kick ass back in my day...
"Holy Oldy Batman, it's another one of his back in my day speeches!"

Anyway... When I started EUGs was a pretty cut throat affair. It was pretty well set that UNSW, Suufa, Newie and Gong would get through to AUGs but the you had Mac, UTS, ANU all gunning for that 5th spot (not to mention putting pretty heavy pressure on Gong) because only 5 got through to AUGs automatically... Everyone else needed the wildcards to go. Add in the "social" teams from Cumbo, Central Coast Campus and you had an interesting mix which was a lot of fun.
AUGs was then the Nationals to EUGs regionals... If anything EUGs was even looser than AUGs because you had all the other joke teams (looking at the Mac Uni AFL squad... what a bunch of no hopers) going through going nuts in the same town (which seemed to be Coffs more often than not)...

basically you'd be happy to pay the same for EUGs as AUGs because they were both as good... Although this was in the day of Kick ass subsidies and not the days of MUSA trying to make a profit out of us...


And Bozz sometimes you need to cut corners to make more time for babbling... and if that means being late for school so be it



Boz, you are preaching to the choir though

Being pedantic isn't it "Preaching to the converted"? That's what I was writing in my uni essay the other day...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 13, 2009, 08:01:32 AM
Facebook stalking leads me to a note about the UTS EUG team for 2009... They're going to surprise everyone and do a lot better than most expect...

Look out everyone!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on May 13, 2009, 08:50:56 AM
Honestly, does any uni apart from Sydney and UTS have to cut people to make 16 players?

I would really like to know. Anyone from UQ listening?

Present. And yes, we would expect to cut a few.
Are unis allowed to take 2 teams to AUGs this year? Don't know whether we'll have the numbers, but is this an option?

We'll know more about UQ's situation in the coming weeks. There is movement at the station.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 13, 2009, 09:02:55 AM
Only ONE team to AUGs, confirmed.

EUGs used to be the shit - EUGs 06 in Coffs was insane, plus some incredible tough ultimate - came down to universe point betwen usyd and gong for who would make it to AUGs! Still in my top 3 fav games/tournaments of all time. When they didn't make it qualifying it changed everything. If the news is true, then I wish I was able to play next year :(

As for money, if you dedicate yourself - you can make it to AUGs. Fundraising, uni assisstance (SUUFA subsidises our players) helps, but in the end you need to dedicate yourself. Value for money is pretty damn good. $70 for melb hat: 2 days, 1 party, lunches, shirt. $140 AUGs: 5 days play, 5 parties, experience of a lifetime

not too shabby in my books...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JdR on May 13, 2009, 06:13:51 PM
Do any Uni Clubs engage in fundraising?

Sure, you can argue that you don't get value for money from what your uni demands.

Sure, you may be a broke student and can't afford it.

But if you want to go, you can probably fundraise pretty easily.  Particularly if you start early.  Particularly if your Club does the same fundraising every year (every time after the first it gets easier and easier) and makes it routine and 'just something we do'.

Just make it clear to people when you're doing it that you're fundraising to help send the 16 best members of your Club get over the barriers raised by others, to get to Uni Games.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 13, 2009, 08:21:44 PM
CSU fundraising used to involve barbeques at bar nights, selling chocolates and working for active after school care.
The people who did this earnt "frisbee credit" which essentially is cash that stayed in the club and would be used for tournaments and club gear. My AUG's player fee in 2007 was paid for by my frisbee credit.

Fundraising is shit easy to do and takes a couple of keen people to organise.
I have to go help with exams and what not, i'll comment on the other stuff a little later on :)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: wetnose on May 13, 2009, 09:12:53 PM
Fundraising really is quite simple, if you put in the effort.

In the past, QUT has done fundraising at the Pig n Whistle, selling raffle tickets for about one hour on Friday nights for 6 weeks, then having a big draw at the end. Each night drunken office workers would throw money at us (sometimes they didn't want a ticket, just a kiss on the cheek from one of the girls) and we would make about $1,800 over 6 weeks. The prizes were then from the Pig n Whistle anyway so they donated them half the time.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JdR on May 14, 2009, 12:28:34 AM
Can I add that, as a drunken office worker, I once drunkenly gave Jangles $10 for raffle tickets at the Pig and Whistle, although he didn't give me a kiss (that I recall - so if he did kiss me, it wasn't memorable).  Nonetheless my fellow drunken office workers followed by drunken lead, and between us QUT Ultimate made about a drunken $77.

Seriously, drunken office workers (many of whom were once uni students and so are slightly sympathetic) are suckers for poor young people in Uni-logoed sports shirts trying to fundraise to go to some sort of games thing (especially once we realise its just a big party interupted by sports).


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 14, 2009, 01:55:16 AM
BUUF have had a long-standing sponsorship deal with 21Arms, the big uni club in B-Town. We run 3 or 4 social events each year that attract 500+ people (last one got 780) and have a deal where punters pay $3 to get in and they get two free drinks (usually punch or beer). We get half and 21Arms gets half.

We also use the same system Bozza and CSU use - whoever does the work gets the cash. Fundraising really is quite easy - it just needs people to do the footwork.

A good one we've done before (and will probably bring back this year) is player sponsorship - businesses sponsor a player for $100. Tends to be family/friends who do the sponsoring. We give them a framed photo of the team with a "______ proudly sponsoring Ballarat Uni Ultimate Frisbee" certificate to put on display, plus a mention in newspaper articles. And they get to write it off as a tax deduction (no idea how but my old boss does it every year).


And while I'm here, I echo Tanty's sentiments about SUGs back in the day. In 2006, we had 12 teams for 5 spots, so the quarter finals were a massive deal. We were playing Monash, who we lost to 11-10 after being up 8-10 at time cap TWICE in 2005. Time cap goes, we're 9-7 up and our confidence was shot and Monash were coming home strong. We agreed to no hard cap and the game ended up going for another 25 minutes. Monash got it back to 9-9 and the final point was Turnover City. Everyone from the other games were watching and the atmosphere was really intense. In the end we stole the win and went MENTAL. A couple of Monash players even shed some tears because of the intensity of the game. Still remains the best game I have ever played in.

We never face Monash last year (except for one practice game) so when we face them this year it will be sweet. Fisticuffs and everything.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Twig on May 14, 2009, 05:10:09 AM
UWA will be cutting players this year, we expect to get in the region of 40 players coming to our try outs starting on monday... We have 60 regular players in a social league run on uni campus. 

Fundraising is key, not only does it give money to the team/competitors it makes the team bond as you are usually spending alot of time together organising stuff.  it works on so many lvls


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 14, 2009, 08:40:48 AM
Back in 2003 (we half of you even ALIVE then?)... EUGs Mac (the Lee and Duncs show) vs ANU... Absolute nail biter... Critical point and Duncs Lays out off the edge of the field and rolls down the hill... I still remember holding my breath till he jumped up yelling "I'm OK!"... The whole crowd watching and cheering...

Mac ended up winning 13-11 and ANU had to rely on the wildcard to get there... and then beat us by about 3 or so at AUGs in the semi too they were so fired up for revenge...

So don't write off EUGs/SUGs especially given how incredibly the competition has soared in recent years


As for the fundraising... Mac did a choc sell and some other stuff in years gone by... it's just noone got their act together because noone seemed fired up... Except Hayley of course...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 14, 2009, 08:54:52 AM
I've forgotten what I was going to reply too... damn long days :-P
Another idea to make money for tournies...

Get $100 from somewhere and head to a casino, hit the roulette table and let it ride on black ;)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on May 14, 2009, 09:02:09 AM
...hit the roulette table and let it ride on black ;)

Once you go black....

Also last year we (and by "we", I mean Kaija's little sister) managed to get a nice $1440 from chocolates in like 4-6 weeks.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: wetnose on May 19, 2009, 12:50:05 AM
It also helped that with QUT shirts on them, a few people were too drunk to be able to read and simply yelled at us "Oh yeah, I used to smoke once, so I'll support QUIT!". We simply took their money and walked away.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on May 19, 2009, 03:29:33 AM
At this stage it's looking unlikely that Adelaide Uni will be able to field a team at SUG due to lack of interest/availability. If this is to be the case it will be bitterly disappointing. :(


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on May 19, 2009, 06:57:37 AM
UWA will be cutting players this year, we expect to get in the region of 40 players coming to our try outs starting on monday... We have 60 regular players in a social league run on uni campus. 

Fundraising is key, not only does it give money to the team/competitors it makes the team bond as you are usually spending alot of time together organising stuff.  it works on so many lvls

Yeah we had a hell of a lot of hacks come down to the first trial. (Enough for 3/4 full teams) Some idiot named 'Kendall' thought he was the shit, however he will subsequently be cut.

Fundraising for us ranges from laying carpet (literally) through to prostituting our more attractive players. I hope to earn enough "frisbee credits" with Twig so that the club will pay for my flights. Look out AUG, UWA is coming.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 19, 2009, 04:00:05 PM
Some idiot named 'Kendall'
Dude or chick? That name can go either way.

We've just settled our lineup for SUG. Not going to be nearly as strong as our AUG team - we're bringing a few rookies - but will still be making a decent chase at a medal.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2009, 08:52:13 PM
Sydney are having final EUG selections this week i believe. It will be a vastly different team from AUG last year, with 12 players of 16 on last years team not backing up for EUG, but it will still be a fairly strong and competitive squad.

Dont know much about other Eastern teams apart from the fact UTS look like they will have a pretty good crack, having picked up some strong girls in Rachel Grindlay and Ant Melo and have retained the majority of their guys. Newcastle? UNSW? ANU? No Mac obviously.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on May 19, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
Actually, Mac will be there.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
why the change? people decided to fork out (i'm not, so i can understand the reluctance)? or just got more interest from randoms?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on May 20, 2009, 12:45:55 AM
At this stage it's looking unlikely that Adelaide Uni will be able to field a team at SUG due to lack of interest/availability. If this is to be the case it will be bitterly disappointing. :(
how devo rodes


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on May 20, 2009, 02:25:10 AM
At this stage it's looking unlikely that Adelaide Uni will be able to field a team at SUG due to lack of interest/availability. If this is to be the case it will be bitterly disappointing. :(
how devo rodes

Indeed. Should have a pretty strong AUG team though so at least that's something.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 20, 2009, 02:49:51 AM
Actually, Mac will be there.

I think Tiggsie may be refering to AUGs there... He's assured me that we shall have a team for AUGs... If not there will be "consequences and repercussions"


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on May 20, 2009, 03:11:51 AM
At this stage it's looking unlikely that Adelaide Uni will be able to field a team at SUG due to lack of interest/availability. If this is to be the case it will be bitterly disappointing. :(
how devo rodes

Indeed. Should have a pretty strong AUG team though so at least that's something.

stronger than last year?
i hope we get to play you again and beat you again


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on May 20, 2009, 05:54:21 AM
why the change? people decided to fork out (i'm not, so i can understand the reluctance)? or just got more interest from randoms?

Actually, I just meant that Hayley, Tanty, Nathan Wong and I are going to be at EUG's doing volunteer-type stuff. Maybe.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2009, 06:02:01 AM
It will be a vastly different team from AUG last year, with 12 players of 16 on last years team not backing up for EUG, but it will still be a fairly strong and competitive squad.

Make that 13 of 16. Making things very interesting, for EUG and for AUG, when previous incumbents have to work to get back on the team. Damn, sounds like hard work.

I wonder how open the EUG feild will be. Last year top 4 was pretty set, but it was tight amongst them. It will probably be totaly different with all these different teams this year. Cool.

Newcastle as maybe starting favorite, (making the wild and possibly totally incorrect assumption that they have retained all theri top brass from last year). Sydney to be up the top, UTS dark horse to medal. UNSW/ANU unknown quantity. Are UQ coming?

I was talking EUG re Mac. I assumed you guys would get it together for AUG. yay for volunteering though.

I am assumign some seeding based on AUG last year...Sydney, Newcastle (as no Mac), and UTS would be top 3 seeds...i dont know where UNSW would slot in. Answers...Simmo? Are you gonna journey up again, or attend your own tournament instead?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on May 20, 2009, 06:11:18 AM
I know Ant Melo is contractually obliged to play with UTS for EUG's and AUG's, but will Rachel? I'm surprised that she even came back to mixed ultimate after playing for RuBi last year in Brisbane.

Dan is uncharacteristically silent about Newcastle this year. He's probably busy TDing.

UNSW are looking serious. Kenny is attached to coach, and their roster (if it ever gets any girls, although interestingly Fee Macrae and Nadine Constantinou were both eligible to play in 07-08) has been augmented with Fakulti's resident Evan and an entire div3 mixed team. People are celebrating in the streets.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 20, 2009, 07:13:52 AM
Rachel Grindlay will be back, which I think is awesome, hopefully she'll take on a leadership role and guide UTS to victory.

And Maple, please stop tooting USYDs horn - I swear most of the heckling at last years final derived from expectations after posts in this damn forum...

Our EUGs team has been announced, and it contains alot of rookies, so Bathurst is anyones game which will be fun. Good to hear UNSW are on the 'road' again after last year, especially led by Evan 'Fire Up Boys' Darmainin (sp?) who, let's face it, is an inspiration to us all...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on May 20, 2009, 07:16:51 AM
UQ will not be at EUG.

UQ will be at AUG.

That is all.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 20, 2009, 07:30:35 AM
I am assumign some seeding based on AUG last year...Sydney, Newcastle (as no Mac), and UTS would be top 3 seeds...i dont know where UNSW would slot in. Answers...Simmo? Are you gonna journey up again, or attend your own tournament instead?
Nah, busy being a player at SUGs. After last year's fucking joke of a mid-year tournament, the South are going back to AUS.

As far as I know EUG seedings will be based on last year's EUG results.


I swear most of the heckling at last years final derived from expectations after posts in this damn forum...
Heh heh heh

I haven't decided who my "predicted winners" will be this year.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 20, 2009, 09:07:57 AM
I do remember being on the field and something in the form of "why don't you make a thread about it?" brought a small smirk to my apparently unfocused head.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 21, 2009, 12:36:24 AM
Quite frankly I think UTS has to be the hot favourite...seeing as it's the only team attending according to AFDA :P

http://www.afda.com/rego/showdivision.php?divisionid=1107

What does the Sydney Uni team look like?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 21, 2009, 03:52:20 AM
We'll see what happens. One good thing is, i'm not sure everyone can see team lists until the actual tournament. Our line up may come as a bit of a shock. You register through AUS to my knowledge. I for one won't be releasing who is playing for the A side or the B side. We do have two teams. If chris-boy wants to come talk us up, thats his choice as captain. I'm just a lowly shumck, out there to play ultimate.

Maple, of course you can field a strong side when you have to cut people like Calan and Nat Chinn. Nobody is doubting what Usyd is bringing. We just wanna see you guys in pub more, and hear about less ice baths ;) ;D .

We better watch out for UTS with Rachel in the pack... She'll certainly give them plenty of backbone...





Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on May 21, 2009, 03:53:58 AM
Some idiot named 'Kendall'
Dude or chick? That name can go either way.


Very good question.... We are still tying to determine a conclusive answer to that query. We will keep you updated.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 21, 2009, 04:37:08 AM
I'm just a lowly shumck, out there to play ultimate.
B TEAM


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 21, 2009, 06:04:43 AM
Bozza put up a signup thing on AFDA so that people can get a rough idea of what the other teams look like, maybe get a bit of hype and speculation going to make the leadup to EUGs interesting. 

Where's the harm in posting your team?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 21, 2009, 06:18:04 AM
Its not my place Henry. It would be up to the selectors or coach or captain to go releasing it to the public. Besides, i don't want to hype anything up. You'll see who made what team at bathurst.

Speaking of speculation, rachel will probably give uts the elite spark they have been missing for the past couple of years. In newcastle we have chris-boy and ellie. FU has joel. UQ has jmc... Every top team has one or two "elite" players (in Usyd's case, a truck load of good players but no real "elite" players). UTS is on the cusp (with their 11th at last year's nats). I think rachel will forcibly push you guys into the top ten, if not the top 8.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rachelg on May 21, 2009, 06:26:09 AM
So I guess my thoughts of turning up at EUGs and no one knowing who I was are not particularly realistic...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on May 21, 2009, 06:42:22 AM
no dice rach


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 21, 2009, 06:46:30 AM
So I guess my thoughts of turning up at EUGs and no one knowing who I was are not particularly realistic...

You play for Wildcard. A dominating womens team that came 1st (or close to) at nats. You occasionally give us ultitalk chumps a thorough tongue lashing.

As maple says:

No dice.

Well, I shouldn't say that.

Maybe a snowball's chance in hell?  ;D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 21, 2009, 07:05:13 AM
I just don't see why a roster for a university competition would be so secretive...  Haven't see the roster for any other uni either though, so not singling you out or anything Dan.

Pretty sure UTS didn't come 11th last year, but thanks for the promotion up the ranks :P

USyd don't have any elite players?  Tin Tin doesn't count anymore!?  Other girls that played on the winning womens nationals side this year don't count either?  Rumour is that Crossie is eligible for AUGs too.

At this rate it looks like Rachel will be too busy signing autographs to actually get on the field lol.

P.S the team still thinks you're a mythical 8ft tall frisbee god that can possibly fly or at least levitate :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 21, 2009, 08:34:19 AM
The reason I have posted the link up on AFDA and have asked teams to sign their players up is for a couple of reasons.
1 - Gives me an easy avenue to communicate with all captains/players about things such as sorting out lunches and gives people the opportunity to ask any questions to me (as people can email me from there)
2 - Can assist in the seeding of teams based on the people playing.
3 - Gives new ultimate players an identity within the frisbee community and gives them the chance see what happens.

The idea of keeping things secretive to me is pretty stupid. Ultimate is not played for sheep stations (at the moment) and there is no financial reward from playing at these games.

Talk to your selectors/coaches/captains/orange peelers/local bar maid and please register your team/players at http://www.afda.com/rego/showdivision.php?divisionid=1107

-bozza


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on May 21, 2009, 09:57:35 PM
can we play for sheep stations? That sounds fun.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on May 21, 2009, 11:24:17 PM
The Newcastle teams are no great secrets. The A team will be competitive as it is at least as strong as last year while the B team has a couple of experienced players to guide the beginners. As far as I know everyone has been registered to AUS by the team manager but I can ask her to register us on the AFDA website as well.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on May 22, 2009, 11:09:13 AM
The ANU's planning on sending a team to EUGs and AUGs both, so I'm pretty excited that EUGs is looking to be a good tourney.  We're going to request to be in Div 1, since I reckon Div 1's going to be where it's at.  We're hoping to put in a much stronger appearance than last year, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things pan out at EUGs.  
MICA (logged in as littletom- changing the login seemed like too much work since I forgot my password.  Tom, you should stop keeping yourself logged in on my computer)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 24, 2009, 09:33:14 PM
USYD will put the team on afda after we get the actual registration done with AUS - had trouble with some players pulling out and alot of our AUGs team unable to play. Result will be a less experienced team but with far more potential for improvement which is great for us.

Should be a fun tournament.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 25, 2009, 10:25:18 PM
I was asked on the weekend what happened to the IVy League idea, so I thought I'd explain why it never happened...

There were three main ideas behind the whole premise:
- To have more tournaments
- To encourage more competition between unis outside the UGs
- To encourage clubs to get new players playing competitively

These were 3 things I identified that were really lacking in 2007 and 2008. However 2009 has already seen a huge improvement in those areas without having any kind of formalised IV competition in place. There's also the fact that 16 out of 19 of last year's AUG teams regularly compete in league, with quite a few having more than one team.

In an ideal world we'd be getting huge numbers to IV tournaments, but the reality is that students are often working on weekends and can't commit to full Saturday/Sunday gigs, but can spare a couple of hours on a weeknight for a run around. Uni clubs playing regular league is good enough for me, so I no longer see a need for an IVy League style system. Feel free to agree/object.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 25, 2009, 10:37:30 PM
Definitely agree Simmo.  I don't know about other cities, but there's a ridiculous amount of involvement by uni clubs in the ulti scene in Sydney.  Mac, UTS, UNSW and USyd are all represented in one or more divisions of league, with UTS having 2 teams and USyd effectively having 2 teams worth (1 team in div1 and one team in div3).  Even at the Stampede there were quite a few uni representatives and/or teams around.

The only time I can see where we need more uni specific events is during nationals season, because uni ultimate is mixed and there's pretty much no mixed comps on during that time.  That's a comparatively short time though, and this year we still managed an IV and a uni hat to tide people over til mixed season.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on May 26, 2009, 05:47:42 AM
sydney has a div 2 team as well henry


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 26, 2009, 07:53:13 PM
Since we're all a bunch of nerds...

I've been trying to think of the best (ie: cheapest and easiest) way to run an audio webcast to provide commentary for the AUG final. I figure at the fields I'd need a microphone, laptop with appropriate software and a decent web connection, but am struggling with where to go beyond that. Thanks to some interweb investigationing, I've figured the three best shots are Skype (conference call), blip.fm and Windows Live Conferencing. Has anyone used any of that stuff?

And also do you reckon there would be much interest in this kind of service? If it can be pulled off successfully and relatively pain-free I would be looking to replicate it for Mixed Nats and Nationals finals in the future.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on May 26, 2009, 09:54:01 PM
Tin Tin gets lost in the entire Usyd line. Whilst he is an "elite" player, He can destroy your chances just as easily as improve them.

Then you have the really consistent performers like mort and izzy (and most of Usyd infact) that aren't "elite" players per se, but because they always play at that same level kinda serve to swallow Tin Tin and his performance up. Regardless of whether it is good or bad.

@Henry, plus there is the newcastle iv coming up later next month...



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on May 26, 2009, 10:06:33 PM
YAY FOR AUG'S
best week of the year...maybe...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on May 27, 2009, 12:05:33 AM
Since we're all a bunch of nerds...

I've been trying to think of the best (ie: cheapest and easiest) way to run an audio webcast to provide commentary for the AUG final. I figure at the fields I'd need a microphone, laptop with appropriate software and a decent web connection, but am struggling with where to go beyond that. Thanks to some interweb investigationing, I've figured the three best shots are Skype (conference call), blip.fm and Windows Live Conferencing. Has anyone used any of that stuff?

And also do you reckon there would be much interest in this kind of service? If it can be pulled off successfully and relatively pain-free I would be looking to replicate it for Mixed Nats and Nationals finals in the future.

Would only work Simmo with you on commentary... which would only work if Nathan Stacey wasn't on or anywhere near the field at the time...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 27, 2009, 06:15:54 PM
I mean 2 teams worth of people Maple (so either 2 teams in one division, or one team in each division that plays in the same timeslot eg. 1 team in div3 and one in div1 :P).


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: The Brucemaster on May 27, 2009, 11:24:30 PM
Tin Tin gets lost in the entire Usyd line. Whilst he is an "elite" player, He can destroy your chances just as easily as improve them.

Then you have the really consistent performers like mort and izzy (and most of Usyd infact) that aren't "elite" players per se, but because they always play at that same level kinda serve to swallow Tin Tin and his performance up. Regardless of whether it is good or bad.

@Henry, plus there is the newcastle iv coming up later next month...



What on earth are you on about? Pete is a massive standout in the USyd team. He counted his own turnovers at 2008 AUGs and he had 32 or 33 for the entire tournament, which works out at an average of between 2 or 3 per game. At last year's ECCs he was responsible for probably at least half of our goals for the week and that's just directly.

As for 'he can destroy our chances just as easily as improve them' well that's quite rubbish. He is far more likely to improve our chance then destroy them. Sure, every now and then he might have an off game but it's far more often that he is in form and will rip through an opposition defence.



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Scotty on May 27, 2009, 11:44:08 PM
Since we're all a bunch of nerds...

I've been trying to think of the best (ie: cheapest and easiest) way to run an audio webcast to provide commentary for the AUG final. I figure at the fields I'd need a microphone, laptop with appropriate software and a decent web connection, but am struggling with where to go beyond that. Thanks to some interweb investigationing, I've figured the three best shots are Skype (conference call), blip.fm and Windows Live Conferencing. Has anyone used any of that stuff?

And also do you reckon there would be much interest in this kind of service? If it can be pulled off successfully and relatively pain-free I would be looking to replicate it for Mixed Nats and Nationals finals in the future.

With the feedback I've gotten from podcasting Mixed Nats 07, Nats 08 and Nats 09, I didnt get much indication that a live feed would be appreciated. With the live feed, would you be able to listen to parts which you missed ?

At Nats 08, we had internet at the fields and If i'd have done it and known there wasnt any language in the recording, I could have encoded and uploaded straight away .... there would have been 30 minutes from game over to upload finished max. But as it was we didnt have that many people around and I didnt do the recording so it was proof listened to first.

Mixed Nats 07 was my first trial and Nats 09 I didnt go.

My only points for improvement next time is to get a recorder which encodes straight to MP3. The recorded i've used to date has a proprietary format which gets converted to WAV then MP3.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on May 31, 2009, 04:43:58 AM
Tin Tin gets lost in the entire Usyd line. Whilst he is an "elite" player, He can destroy your chances just as easily as improve them.

Then you have the really consistent performers like mort and izzy (and most of Usyd infact) that aren't "elite" players per se, but because they always play at that same level kinda serve to swallow Tin Tin and his performance up. Regardless of whether it is good or bad.

@Henry, plus there is the newcastle iv coming up later next month...



Woah, Dan take a step back. That's a tad rich. Pete is an asset every time we're on the field.

And I'm not sure who wouldn't count J-Bell as an elite player, she is (well, was) probably one the best if not the best female uni player last year.

As for commentary, I don't really think there would be much demand for it. Would be cool to get a podcast though - just thinking how many people are free to listen to a 90 minute game at 1pm on a friday...

PS. I'm pumped for EUGs - if you haven't booked accommodation yet, DO IT NOW! There is pretty much nothing left.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on May 31, 2009, 05:55:05 AM
Commentary schmomentary... I'm all for giving the better hecklers megaphones though...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on May 31, 2009, 08:48:41 AM
Tin Tin gets lost in the entire Usyd line. Whilst he is an "elite" player, He can destroy your chances just as easily as improve them.

Then you have the really consistent performers like mort and izzy (and most of Usyd infact) that aren't "elite" players per se, but because they always play at that same level kinda serve to swallow Tin Tin and his performance up. Regardless of whether it is good or bad.
Have you ever seen Sydney Uni play? I wouldn't say Pete is a dominant player on that side at all.

SUUFA is full of elite players - Izzy, Tara, Max, Hammer, Calan...and that's without putting any real thought into it.

I'm never really sure what you're on about, Dan. How was ERYUC anyways?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on May 31, 2009, 08:56:57 AM
I think Brett's hit a key point... The majority of people who'd have nothing better to do for 90 min at 1pm on a Friday will be there in the flesh, I would think...

Personally, rather than audio (though that was a cool first step), I really think we should start getting video recordings of national finals. Nationals, Mixed Nationals, AUG. All of these finals should be recorded.
In the past, we've sometimes had unofficial videographers (take a bow, Dom Ventura), but I'd really like to see official videos starting to become a thing. That would be cool. Even if it's just a single camera, fixed position, no editing to start with... I think this is a great step to take, and a relatively simple one to arrange, I would think?

And who's J-Bell?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Stafman on May 31, 2009, 09:08:52 AM

And who's J-Bell?

j-bell = izzy


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on May 31, 2009, 10:25:02 PM
Still interested in seeing some of the uni teams...  Only ANU has signed up players though, Mac has signed up an empty team as some form of passive-aggressive protest too


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: The Brucemaster on May 31, 2009, 11:00:13 PM
Tin Tin gets lost in the entire Usyd line. Whilst he is an "elite" player, He can destroy your chances just as easily as improve them.

Then you have the really consistent performers like mort and izzy (and most of Usyd infact) that aren't "elite" players per se, but because they always play at that same level kinda serve to swallow Tin Tin and his performance up. Regardless of whether it is good or bad.
Have you ever seen Sydney Uni play? I wouldn't say Pete is a dominant player on that side at all.

SUUFA is full of elite players - Izzy, Tara, Max, Hammer, Calan...and that's without putting any real thought into it.

I'm never really sure what you're on about, Dan. How was ERYUC anyways?

Simmo,

I think you just agreed with Dan. He was saying that Pete doesn't stand out as a dominant player in our side and that because of other players like Mort and Izzy, he just becomes another player.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on June 01, 2009, 03:30:57 AM

And who's J-Bell?

j-bell = izzy

Haha, the evolution of that nickname better stay off the internet....or maybe not.

I am tempted to register for Macquarie now. I hardly think its a form of protest though, just tiger bored...or am i wrong.

At what point is someone elite at uni level. If its playing Open/Womens nationals then that makes 14 out of 16 of last years team "elite". Or is it more the NUFL (does that still exist) level players who get the moniker of being totally awesome.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on June 01, 2009, 05:13:56 AM
I've registered the Newcastle A team up on the AFDA website for anyone who's curious.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on June 01, 2009, 08:19:22 AM
I'm never really sure what you're on about, Dan. How was ERYUC anyways?

ERYUC was pretty good. Rhys didn't win MVP but he was certainly the most valuable Clenton. Fields were basically Coff's Harbour quality. Some very promising kids for next year's campaign coming out of the woodwork.

I am tempted to register for Macquarie now. I hardly think its a form of protest though, just tiger bored...

Spot on.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 01, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
I'm never really sure what you're on about, Dan. How was ERYUC anyways?

ERYUC was pretty good. Rhys didn't win MVP but he was certainly the most valuable Clenton. Fields were basically Coff's Harbour quality. Some very promising kids for next year's campaign coming out of the woodwork.


 ;D  :D ;D

Fields were atrocious... But the opperating committee didn't mind one bit that we churned the shit out of their fields. Jmc's ass did come up in a conversation i had with a queensland junior (Jack the Ninja) about throwing forehands... Weird convo that one, weird.

For those that care about the results:

Final: Fresh Fries (QLD) def Miner (Newcastle, NSW) 10 - 7
3rd/4th: Acronym (Sydney, NSW) def Psuedonym (Sydney, NSW) 8 - 4
Discotheque (ACT) came 5th.

Miner won Spirit.

Xavier Black (NSW) won Male MVP
Catherine Noble (NSW i think) won Female MVP


Back to the pete argument. I'm not sure what games you guys have been watching, but because of the depth of suufa, Pete Liddicoat gets lost. If pete only turned it 33 times at AUGs, i'd be surprised. Either there is some creative scoring going on there OR you missed 3 or 4 games  ;D

Nothing against the bloke, great guy, insanely balanced when pivoting and can throw it with the best.... But really, the Suufa team outshines individuals. Suufa's strength comes from the fact they don't rely on any one player to win them the game. Pete tends to make bad throwing decisions, which is why he is known as captain throwaway to the rest of us. Personally, I think pete is on level pegging with Jmc or Oshep when it comes to pure throwing ability but then kinda fades into the background as Jmc and those better handlers make great decisions on their throws, pete just seems to pick the wrong one at the wrong time.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 01, 2009, 08:43:57 PM
That's a pretty damn solid team from Newcastle!  Without UQ and Mac from last year, and from what I hear a somewhat depleted Suufa EUGs team, most likely the team to beat.

Clearly Tiger was protesting against his boredom


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on June 02, 2009, 06:27:48 AM
Personally, rather than audio (though that was a cool first step), I really think we should start getting video recordings of national finals. Nationals, Mixed Nationals, AUG. All of these finals should be recorded.
In the past, we've sometimes had unofficial videographers (take a bow, Dom Ventura), but I'd really like to see official videos starting to become a thing. That would be cool. Even if it's just a single camera, fixed position, no editing to start with... I think this is a great step to take, and a relatively simple one to arrange, I would think?

Definitely a good idea... I'd be way more inclined to watch a vid, or even highlights than listen too a final

Still interested in seeing some of the uni teams...  Only ANU has signed up players though, Mac has signed up an empty team as some form of passive-aggressive protest too
I was thinking more "bitter at being unable to go"

I am tempted to register for Macquarie now. I hardly think its a form of protest though, just tiger bored...or am i wrong.
Someone de-registered me from the team though =( talk about feeling unwanted...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 02, 2009, 07:25:47 AM
I'm never really sure what you're on about, Dan. How was ERYUC anyways?

ERYUC was pretty good. Rhys didn't win MVP but he was certainly the most valuable Clenton. Fields were basically Coff's Harbour quality. Some very promising kids for next year's campaign coming out of the woodwork.


 ;D  :D ;D

Fields were atrocious... But the opperating committee didn't mind one bit that we churned the shit out of their fields. Jmc's ass did come up in a conversation i had with a queensland junior (Jack the Ninja) about throwing forehands... Weird convo that one, weird.

For those that care about the results:

Final: Fresh Fries (QLD) def Miner (Newcastle, NSW) 10 - 7
3rd/4th: Acronym (Sydney, NSW) def Psuedonym (Sydney, NSW) 8 - 4
Discotheque (ACT) came 5th.

Miner won Spirit.

Xavier Black (NSW) won Male MVP
Catherine Noble (NSW i think) won Female MVP


Back to the pete argument. I'm not sure what games you guys have been watching, but because of the depth of suufa, Pete Liddicoat gets lost. If pete only turned it 33 times at AUGs, i'd be surprised. Either there is some creative scoring going on there OR you missed 3 or 4 games  ;D

Nothing against the bloke, great guy, insanely balanced when pivoting and can throw it with the best.... But really, the Suufa team outshines individuals. Suufa's strength comes from the fact they don't rely on any one player to win them the game. Pete tends to make bad throwing decisions, which is why he is known as captain throwaway to the rest of us. Personally, I think pete is on level pegging with Jmc or Oshep when it comes to pure throwing ability but then kinda fades into the background as Jmc and those better handlers make great decisions on their throws, pete just seems to pick the wrong one at the wrong time.

Hehehe, even Ultitalk thinks what I say is trashed... My post disappeared...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on June 02, 2009, 07:33:49 AM
nice post Danno!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on June 06, 2009, 01:07:17 AM
So are any teams except for Newcastle, UTS and UNSW going to the Newie IV?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 07, 2009, 03:45:00 AM
In slightly EUGs-related news, UTS, UNSW and Suufa had a scrimmage yesterday in Centennial Park.  I don't think either of the teams had full EUGs rosters but the results:

UTS (w/ Gaby) > UNSW by a few
Suufa (w/Gaby) > UTS by 1 point in extra time
Suufa (w/Gaby) > UNSW by quite a few

Real winner of the day obviously?  Gaby Melo :P

Shaping up to be a close EUGs I think, it looks like Newcastle is going to possibly be the team to beat though.



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on June 07, 2009, 05:08:41 AM
So are any teams except for Newcastle, UTS and UNSW going to the Newie IV?

Unfortunately it's on the same date as the Brisbane Development Camp, which counts Macquarie (or at least the guys: Rory, Nathans both Wong and Linforth, Ian Muir, Nick Dousset and myself) out.

Still, I reckon a Macquarie team comprised entirely of women could beat SUUFA.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 07, 2009, 05:34:39 AM
Even if you, the Nathans, Rory, Ian and Nick were there, it would still be a team entirely composed of girls :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 07, 2009, 07:44:42 AM
No wonder mac players don't have any money and can't afford to go to eugs.

But they do need all the help they can get....  ;D

Anyway, girls are most welcome. There are always an excess of dudes and i have no doubt you could borrow one or a half dozen for the day.

Uh, teams are capped at 8, so if you are planning on coming to the iv, get in sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2009, 10:49:28 AM
In slightly EUGs-related news, UTS, UNSW and Suufa had a scrimmage yesterday in Centennial Park.  I don't think either of the teams had full EUGs rosters but the results:

UTS (w/ Gaby) > UNSW by a few
Suufa (w/Gaby) > UTS by 1 point in extra time
Suufa (w/Gaby) > UNSW by quite a few

Real winner of the day obviously?  Gaby Melo :P

Shaping up to be a close EUGs I think, it looks like Newcastle is going to possibly be the team to beat though.



Lets be honest. The real winner was the SUUFA end of semester party, which dominated the majority of players on SUUFA and UTS the night before. I am quite sure i saw through the haze several players from both teams in a right royal state. Considering the sore and sorry faces i saw heading off to play ultimate the next morning, most still in costume, i think that the party was by far the most influential player on both teams.

Tiger...really, you can do better pipes than that, i expect better things from you. Not even worth playing.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 07, 2009, 07:03:24 PM
Haha you're dead right maple. I felt pretty bad being the only guy on the field that didn't have a hangover or was still drunk :p. Backing up the next day is an essential skill in Uni ultimate though and I think quite a few people got a crash course in that this Saturday!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on June 07, 2009, 10:17:46 PM
Real winner of the day obviously?  Gaby Melo :P

Gaby was always going to win that...

Unfortunately it's on the same date as the Brisbane Development Camp, which counts Macquarie (or at least the guys: Rory, Nathans both Wong and Linforth, Ian Muir, Nick Dousset and myself) out.
Still, I reckon a Macquarie team comprised entirely of women could beat SUUFA.

Yay development... but as I've said before Tiger, if you guys can't get your shit (and funds) together to get a team (including me) to AUGs this year there are going to be consequences and repercussions that you will still be feeling at WCCs... I'm missing a Bad Religion/NoFX gig for AUGs...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 08, 2009, 04:59:00 AM
Quote
Bad Religion/NoFX gig for AUGs...

Wow, I listened to nofx when i was an angry rebellious teen...

Living in the past much tanty?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on June 08, 2009, 08:33:21 AM
So apparently the Newie IV is on the Sunday now?
That means a committed Mac team can still make it there :P



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on June 08, 2009, 08:42:29 AM
Apparently I'm an idiot, and you should ignore everything I just said.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: The Brucemaster on June 08, 2009, 08:51:14 AM
Apparently I'm an idiot, and you should ignore everything I just said.

Par for the course really.


In other news, a closer to full strength and non-hungover SUUFA side played what seemed like a full strength plus Rachel Grindlay UTS side tonight. The larger field of ELS Hall plus a fresh squad on both sides made for a much more competitive and flowing game of Ultimate. SUUFA took the game 15-6/7 but the score could have been closer without a couple of drops in the endzone by the FCUTS (not to mention Loren's dubious down call after an epic Linus hammer :P).

In summary, with a few weeks of training still left, UTS will be a much more competitive side than last year's ECCs and with SUUFA missing a few 'elite but not stand-out players' like Pete and Izzy the competition is looking very even. 


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on June 08, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
In the end... I think the town of Bathurst will be the eventual winner for EUG's!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 08, 2009, 10:04:01 PM
Yeah that was the exact team we're taking to EUGs except that we were missing Ash Symons (Rachel is on the team).  I think you're right Cam, the game was probably closer than the scoreboard showed.  I thought the team did pretty well considering half of them don't really know what a zone is :P

Lol @ Loren too.  Standing on the sideline with Lisi, we both agreed that it was definitely up!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on June 09, 2009, 02:28:49 AM
Quote
Bad Religion/NoFX gig for AUGs...

Wow, I listened to nofx when i was an angry rebellious teen...

Living in the past much tanty?

I listened to nofx when I was a teen... and that's only like decade ago now... you find me one person who goes to that gig and doesn't think it kicks ass.

I briefly considered skipping out on the final night uni games party to skip over to see the Brisbane show...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on June 11, 2009, 11:57:53 PM
so much talk on eug's what about sug's
just quietly...flinders is looking prettty amazing this year


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 12, 2009, 12:54:56 AM
BUUF's team is very similar to their AUG team from last year. And it is going to be remarkably different to our AUG team this year.

Our core group is suffering from burnout lately after Nats, uni work and various other endeavours, so BUUF is taking a bit of a sabbatical for the next few weeks. No trainings (to my knowledge) and no G-League this season, so once SUG rolls around we will hopefully have a lot more energy.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 12, 2009, 06:08:11 AM
so much talk on eug's what about sug's
just quietly...flinders is looking prettty amazing this year

Pfft, no one cares.

EUGs is where it is gona be at!

I've been heralding this since last year, i said; watch out for UTS, they will be a force of the future and here they are. I'm kinda nervous about playing you guys, i don't wanna become a victim of my own prophecy...  ;D

Quote from: brucemaster
In summary, with a few weeks of training still left, UTS will be a much more competitive side than last year's ECCs and with SUUFA missing a few 'elite but not stand-out players' like Pete and Izzy the competition is looking very even.

 ;D With a not so subtle dig at me. I like it.  ;D

Suufa will miss Pete and Izzy if they let themselves be bogged down in the "omg, we lost our best players" depression stance some people take when something goes against them. They have to realize that they have enough depth to field 2 top ten AUGs teams, atleast (when most uni's struggle to field one team). Putting the disc in the hands of Tarn, Xave, Tara and that crowd isn't going to hurt you. Not in any fantasy game i'd play where they are throwing to a half decent team.

I'm just putting it out there, if i saw linus throw a hammer, i'd call it down too... He has no right to be throwing hammers, he's just not that good...  ;D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on June 12, 2009, 10:40:14 AM
Will Simon Baume be playing this year? I thought he was going to be overseas.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2009, 06:30:16 PM
Suufa will miss Pete and Izzy if they let themselves be bogged down in the "omg, we lost our best players" depression stance some people take when something goes against them. They have to realize that they have enough depth to field 2 top ten AUGs teams, atleast (when most uni's struggle to field one team). Putting the disc in the hands of Tarn, Xave, Tara and that crowd isn't going to hurt you. Not in any fantasy game i'd play where they are throwing to a half decent team.

I'm just putting it out there, if i saw linus throw a hammer, i'd call it down too... He has no right to be throwing hammers, he's just not that good...  ;D

Geez Dan...sometimes i just dont get it. Its really interesting when you pyschoanalyse. So rarely are your posts connected with fact (or even informed opinion) i wonder sometimes whether you are pulling som elaborate hoax on us all.

As for those 3 players, none of them will be playing EUG and only Mike will be playing AUG. Tara graduated, Xav is a douche/is going on exchange, and Mike isnt at uni this semester. Sydney will have a fairly inexperienced line up compared to recent years, which will be a good challenge and a gauntlet thrown down to current team members and incumbents from last year not playing EUG's. I am sure they will try not to say "omg, we have lost our best players" and just go out and play th best ultimate that they can. But your words of advice are sage and helpful.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on June 12, 2009, 08:17:10 PM
So who's actually looking good this year (in terms of AUG)? This has pretty much been a Syd/UTS thread of late... any word on other teams? From what I can pick up:

EAST
UTS: strongest year yet - are we talking semis, quarters, top 10?
Syd: lost a fair bit of experience, maybe a quarters/semis team?
UNSW: not too strong, based on that little round-robin scrimmage?
Newc: the team to beat from the East?
Mac: unknown - they're sending a team to AUG, I hope? Judging by their boys, should do alright?
ANU: still picking up the pieces a bit?

SOUTH
I know nothing...
BUUF, Monash, Melbourne, RMIT, Deakin, La Trobe - anything?

WEST
UWA? Will we see Murdoch/ECU?

Who's looking to win on the Gold Coast?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on June 13, 2009, 12:11:48 AM
Mac: decent guys + Gamble and the extreme outside shot of Matt/Duncan/Axe/Belinda/Amanda.

UNSW: fairly short team, athletic if inexperienced, have Fakulti's Rookie of the Year and Abra's little sister who would be one of the best female D players at AUG's if she wasn't pigeon-holed into being a starting handler for that team.

Edit: in my head I got confused and thought Monash were the same as La Trobe. They're not, La Trobe's depleted line-up (and will Crystal play?) doesn't look promising and I refuse to believe Moroney's hype about Monash because we beat them last year and it felt good.

BUUF, that I know of, have Timill and Dan. That alone would put them in quarters, but apparently they also have this justice thing that they're out for, and if they pick up some support players and a D line, should have a shot at winning.

Tom's at Griffith, surely they're mustering up something.

Also JMc can you confirm/deny whether Abra is coming back and playing at UQ? That is the rumour I have heard.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 13, 2009, 12:24:55 AM
UTS is getting a bit too overhyped I think :P  It's still a very young and inexperienced team, but definitely a lot of potential there.  

Suufa are still very strong, they don't really have any new players exactly, just a couple that haven't had a chance to play EUGs/AUGs yet because the rest of the players in the club were too strong.  They've still played a lot and know what they're doing.

Newcastle will be fairly dominant at EUGs if they perform to their lineup on paper.

UNSW are a very new team in general, but they're improving quite a lot under the sage eye of Kenny Shepherd.  They're missing their 2 strongest players for EUGs but they'll have them both for AUGs, and come AUGs time some of their raw talent should be a lot more refined.

CSU are undergoing a massive rebuilding phase.  Expect thumbers, crazy layouts and party-winning antics.

I haven't heard much from the mac stables, but they have Megan, Hayley, Gen and a couple of fakultarians ready to play.  Depending on Seppos and whether Matt can be persuaded to play through large cash bribes, they might be competitive come AUGs.

The only non-NSW news I have is that apparently flinders are going to be AMAZING.  I think their only loss is Alec?  Depending on whether Joels shoulder heals up I guess.

Exciting!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 13, 2009, 01:30:54 AM
Pfft, no one cares.

EUGs is where it is gona be at!
Yeah. Who cares about the region that produced 6 out of last year's top 10?

Monash are going to be very good again this year.
Melbourne, depends on whether Freisy and J-Lo make the trip.
Flinders, strong again, but no Alec or Erin.
Adelaide, strong again. Only loss is Steve Harfield. I'd almost back them in to medal again.
Latrobe, lost Macca, Jenica and possibly Jen. Will be The Wise & Lockhart Show, but probably won't be enough for quarters.
Deakin, no losses but some recruitment issues.
Ballarat, the next few weeks will be telling, as a few people decide if they continue/return to study. Dan, Timill, Macca and Greta are locked in. Everyone else is still up in the air.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on June 13, 2009, 02:00:23 AM
UTS is getting a bit too overhyped I think :P 
How does it feel? ;)

EUGs is mainly just going to be flat out FUN. Actually, primarily it's going to be friggin cold, but fun comes in a close second. USYD has a mix of experience, same with UTS, NEWC... which are my personal pick for the top 3 but in reality, anyone can win it. I'm looking forward to there being no real 'favourites' and being able to play some quality, close matches and hitting the parties hard with our eastern buddies. And the best part is, everyone gets to smash Cumbo!

And let's just remember, it's only EUGs...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on June 13, 2009, 02:12:19 AM
Adelaide, strong again. Only loss is Steve Harfield. I'd almost back them in to medal again.

Actually we have also lost Dutchie and Ricky. For some reason Dutchie has decided to finish his PhD? (Odd, eh?) So there's the potential for quite a different team to be there.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 13, 2009, 02:33:24 AM
There's a bit of a difference hyping up a team made entirely of nationals players, as opposed to a team with only 1 person playing longer than 2 years :P

Looking forward to a win this time around though, and scoring more than 10 points total for the competition! 



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: evdogs on June 13, 2009, 10:58:01 PM
UTS is getting a bit too overhyped I think :P 
How does it feel? ;)

...I'm looking forward to there being no real 'favourites' and being able to play some quality, close matches and hitting the parties hard with our eastern buddies. And the best part is, everyone gets to smash Cumbo!


Oh come on Brett. Why must you SUUFA kids keep lying to yourselves? We all know come Uni Games you spend more time in ice-baths than on the dancefloor...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on June 14, 2009, 01:59:03 AM
Pfft, no one cares.

Flinders, strong again, but no Alec or Erin.


our guys will be very strong but not so much our girls


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on June 14, 2009, 07:12:58 AM
Oh come on Brett. Why must you SUUFA kids keep lying to yourselves? We all know come Uni Games you spend more time in ice-baths than on the dancefloor...

Doing icebaths in the arvo after the game helps us to not feel sore after nights of partying. Plus it's an amazing team bonding experience! SUUFA loves the parties, in fact i've got some great footage of a usyd vs uts boat - no real need to post the result i'm sure everyone can guess ;)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 14, 2009, 03:16:16 PM
Oof. Massive pipe.

Good to see a few other tournaments on the calendar before AUGs. Who is attending what?

BUUF is going to Keith Callipo Classic and B-Town Showdown.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 14, 2009, 09:47:12 PM
Quote from: maple
Geez Dan...sometimes i just dont get it. Its really interesting when you pyschoanalyse. So rarely are your posts connected with fact (or even informed opinion) i wonder sometimes whether you are pulling som elaborate hoax on us all.

As for those 3 players, none of them will be playing EUG and only Mike will be playing AUG. Tara graduated, Xav is a douche/is going on exchange, and Mike isnt at uni this semester. Sydney will have a fairly inexperienced line up compared to recent years, which will be a good challenge and a gauntlet thrown down to current team members and incumbents from last year not playing EUG's. I am sure they will try not to say "omg, we have lost our best players" and just go out and play th best ultimate that they can. But your words of advice are sage and helpful.

You are saying you would you rather me say you are fucked and couldn't win no matter what you did? For some people, the loss of alledgedly "awesome" players is not a bad thing, rather an opportunity for them to step up and press their claim about being a half decent ultimate player. If suufa are anything like i think they are, i think we may see a new breed of superstar at eugs to replace who was lost.

@Brettski: hell yeah its going to be fun. Speaking of cumbo though, doesn't maple attend that campus O_o?

Word on the wire, UNSW aren't bring Ju to EUGs because she didn't get to trials in time...  :o Anyone else getting flashes of deja vu of a worlds player being dropped because they didn't attend team trials? Nevertheless, big loss when UNSW is shaping up to be a relatively inexperienced team.

Quote from: simmo
Yeah. Who cares about the region that produced 6 out of last year's top 10?

Monash are going to be very good again this year.
Melbourne, depends on whether Freisy and J-Lo make the trip.
Flinders, strong again, but no Alec or Erin.
Adelaide, strong again. Only loss is Steve Harfield. I'd almost back them in to medal again.
Latrobe, lost Macca, Jenica and possibly Jen. Will be The Wise & Lockhart Show, but probably won't be enough for quarters.
Deakin, no losses but some recruitment issues.
Ballarat, the next few weeks will be telling, as a few people decide if they continue/return to study. Dan, Timill, Macca and Greta are locked in. Everyone else is still up in the air.

Yah, if NSW played up to their standard, we would have provided 7 of the top 10, but plenty of teams choked and the southern teams pounced. I just hope we don't make the same mistake twice.

There is a fair bit of hype surrounding monash, they have apparently lost Oshep, but picked up a bunch of nationals guys. Including some dude called cleatus which is apparently one half of an "unstoppable" thrower/reciever combination. The other half being seb... Their girls however have apparently stayed the same, which could prove vital when it comes to a mixed tournament.

Flinders' chances hang on joel pillar. If he plays well, they play well. Otherwise their depth is kinda lacking.

Big loss for AU losing Dutch, ricky and Steve... Dutch and Dabbo singlehandedly tore us apart (while the rest of AU made sure there was no hope of us even scoring let alone coming back). AU will still have a shot, it will just be a fair bit harder without them.

It would be a real pity if Deakin don't show. They were the surprise of last year's augs and it would be a real shame if they didn't return to build on that strong showing. I would love to see a match between Deakin and the new improved UTS, it think it would be one hell of a competitive match.

Henry, its australian nature to cheer for the underdogs. We all want to see UTS get a win, play some good ultimate and rock the world... (We just don't want it to be our team ;) ;D ) Get used to the UTS love, there is going to be plenty of it at EUGs, if you guys don't medal, we will all be disappointed. Just make sure linus doesn't handle and dumps on 2, you'll be fine.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 14, 2009, 10:27:45 PM
Yah, if NSW played up to their standard, we would have provided 7 of the top 10, but plenty of teams choked and the southern teams pounced. I just hope we don't make the same mistake twice.
What? Stop making excuses. South is much better than East right now.

Including some dude called cleatus which is apparently one half of an "unstoppable" thrower/reciever combination
...
Their girls however have apparently stayed the same, which could prove vital when it comes to a mixed tournament
Believe the hype. Cletus is a fucking demon. Ash Thornton is back, too. Most of their girls are better than you anyway.

Flinders' chances hang on joel pillar. If he plays well, they play well. Otherwise their depth is kinda lacking.
No depth? Do you know how many Flinders players played Nationals this year? ALL OF THEM.

It would be a real pity if Deakin don't show. They were the surprise of last year's augs and it would be a real shame if they didn't return to build on that strong showing. I would love to see a match between Deakin and the new improved UTS, it think it would be one hell of a competitive match.
My post may have been a bit misleading. They'll be there, even if they're playing savage. I know they've picked up a Geelong player who is quite handy, and they have a new girl or two playing league. It just depends if they can get their newbies to Nationals, otherwise I suspect they'll run out of legs on day four.

But then again that's exactly what I said about them last year.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Shaunie81 on June 14, 2009, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: simmo
Quote from: Tenk283
It would be a real pity if Deakin don't show. They were the surprise of last year's augs and it would be a real shame if they didn't return to build on that strong showing. I would love to see a match between Deakin and the new improved UTS, it think it would be one hell of a competitive match.
My post may have been a bit misleading. They'll be there, even if they're playing savage. I know they've picked up a Geelong player who is quite handy, and they have a new girl or two playing league. It just depends if they can get their newbies to Nationals, otherwise I suspect they'll run out of legs on day four.

But then again that's exactly what I said about them last year.

SUG's: Lose 2 from last year, switch a rookie guy for another more experience rookie guy and gain a 2 guys and a girl.

AUG's: @Simmo: Your last post may of also been misleading. There's a good possibility we may not be there due to our student organisation being money hungry (last year's AUG's was meant to be $600 - a lot of whinging to them and AUS got it down to a respectable price). If we do play, we lose Gibbo and a girl, gain a girl, hopefully keep the guys we have and gain some more rookies during the trimester.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on June 14, 2009, 11:59:14 PM
Including some dude called cleatus which is apparently one half of an "unstoppable" thrower/reciever combination
...
Believe the hype. Cletus is a fucking demon.

He'll have to handle at AUG though - Monash don't have any throwers.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2009, 12:13:33 AM
Quote from: maple
Geez Dan...sometimes i just dont get it. Its really interesting when you pyschoanalyse. So rarely are your posts connected with fact (or even informed opinion) i wonder sometimes whether you are pulling som elaborate hoax on us all.

As for those 3 players, none of them will be playing EUG and only Mike will be playing AUG. Tara graduated, Xav is a douche/is going on exchange, and Mike isnt at uni this semester. Sydney will have a fairly inexperienced line up compared to recent years, which will be a good challenge and a gauntlet thrown down to current team members and incumbents from last year not playing EUG's. I am sure they will try not to say "omg, we have lost our best players" and just go out and play th best ultimate that they can. But your words of advice are sage and helpful.

You are saying you would you rather me say you are fucked and couldn't win no matter what you did? For some people, the loss of alledgedly "awesome" players is not a bad thing, rather an opportunity for them to step up and press their claim about being a half decent ultimate player. If suufa are anything like i think they are, i think we may see a new breed of superstar at eugs to replace who was lost.

@Brettski: hell yeah its going to be fun. Speaking of cumbo though, doesn't maple attend that campus O_o?

Oh, Dan, please read what i say.

And no. I dont go to Cumbo. I am going to be on the Greek Islands during EUG, instead of freezing my tits off in Bathurst. Didnt seem like a bad choice really.



Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on June 15, 2009, 12:24:08 AM


Flinders' chances hang on joel pillar. If he plays well, they play well. Otherwise their depth is kinda lacking.
No depth? Do you know how many Flinders players played Nationals this year? ALL OF THEM.

not all of us did
but most likely over half
we will be a force to be rekoned with i think


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 15, 2009, 02:36:34 AM
Dan your ignorance is getting a bit beyond a joke...  Ju could walk onto pretty much any team she wanted to, let alone a uni team.  She wasn't ever planning on attending EUGs


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on June 15, 2009, 09:41:15 AM
Well I'm glad someone finally said something.

Monash have Seb, don't they? He's not the best redhead handler at AUG's... but he's a close 5th.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Skippy on June 15, 2009, 10:12:43 AM
Guys, if you're going to talk him up, at least get his name right. It's Cleeeeeetus.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: timill on June 15, 2009, 11:22:38 AM
Mish, I'm impressed you know the correct spelling. Nice work!



...oh and Uni Ultimate, blah, blah..


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 16, 2009, 03:23:07 AM


Flinders' chances hang on joel pillar. If he plays well, they play well. Otherwise their depth is kinda lacking.
No depth? Do you know how many Flinders players played Nationals this year? ALL OF THEM.

not all of us did
but most likely over half
we will be a force to be rekoned with i think

Where did karma/the sa womens team come?

Regardless of how good Cleeeetus is, monash still have 5 other spots on the field to fill.

@Henry: New Souths loss... Everyone that is going to play them at EUGs' gain. Besides, if i knew the full story all the time, i wouldn't bother coming on here. I thought UltiTalk was the place to talk shit about ultimate...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on June 16, 2009, 04:32:09 AM
Where did karma/the sa womens team come?

Karma came 8th after a pretty strong start to the tourney. Their top line were pretty tired by the end of the tourney, and they lost Joel, which hurt them late. Top 7-8 players can mix it with the best.
Not sure about Indies...

Regardless of how good Cleeeetus is, monash still have 5 other spots on the field to fill.

Sorry Monash, looks like you're playing 6s for AUG. That's rough.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 16, 2009, 05:37:58 AM
Regardless of how good Cleeeetus is, monash still have 5 other spots on the field to fill.
Josh Cukierman (Chilly A), Andy Moroney (HoS), Seb Barr (HoS/Barramundis), Michelle Rogers (Honey A), Ash Thornton (Honey A), Grace Gard (Honey B)

Then there's Mike Hui (played Worlds with Hong Kong), Chris Folkes, Dave Bradford, Sam Ludowyk, Carey Thornton...the list goes on.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on June 16, 2009, 06:22:10 AM
Including some dude called cleatus which is apparently one half of an "unstoppable" thrower/reciever combination
...
Believe the hype. Cletus is a fucking demon.

He'll have to handle at AUG though - Monash don't have any throwers.

LOL I hope he doesn't read this. Don't go putting ideas into his head.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on June 16, 2009, 06:24:15 AM
Regardless of how good Cleeeetus is, monash still have 5 other spots on the field to fill.
Josh Cukierman (Chilly A), Andy Moroney (HoS), Seb Barr (HoS/Barramundis), Michelle Rogers (Honey A), Ash Thornton (Honey A), Grace Gard (Honey B)

Then there's Mike Hui (played Worlds with Hong Kong), Chris Folkes, Dave Bradford, Sam Ludowyk, Carey Thornton...the list goes on.

On this...Mich Rogers is in Africa until the Monday of AUG...could be tight to get back in time/miss all the trainings etc.

Dave has opted to study in Malaysia with his girlfriend so won't be available.

In better news we've picked up 3 Canadians and possibly Steve Thomas


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 16, 2009, 08:38:21 AM
Toey for Dave is a pretty fucking sweet trade if you ask me.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on June 16, 2009, 08:38:59 AM
@Henry: New Souths loss... Everyone that is going to play them at EUGs' gain. Besides, if i knew the full story all the time, i wouldn't bother coming on here. I thought UltiTalk was the place to talk shit about ultimate...

It is the place to talk shit about Ultimate, but probably not the best to throw wild speculation out there about why a person isn't going... Makes the UNSW people look bad for not picking a quality player because of other things, makes her not look good for not making the commitment to UNSW and makes you look like an ass for starting the rumors.

But if you are trying to increase your heckle count... you're going about it the right way.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on June 16, 2009, 09:45:28 PM
Now I enjoy a bit of Dan bashing as much as the next guy (you should have seen his awesome scoober fake/turnover the other night), but the whole UNSW not taking Ju thing was what Ellie told us at training the other day and I have no reason to think that she doesn't know what she's talking about.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Meegs on June 16, 2009, 11:03:23 PM
Yeah, I heard a similar story from Liz, who'd heard it from Ju. So maybe it's the rest of you who don't what you're talking about??


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: tlindsaybrown on June 17, 2009, 04:29:30 AM
HA!

Nice going Clenton. Get that up ya every single other person. Especially you DaveR and you JMc, whoever you guys are. Quit ragging on Clenton. He may not be the best at stuff but he tries really hard.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 17, 2009, 04:33:03 AM
Not being able to commit to playing EUGs because of time or other constraints is very different to not being selected to play due to not going to training. UNSW wouldve taken her if she hadn't been to any training at all and decided she wanted to play on the last day of EUG registrations. That's just the impression I get from talking to her and Nadine and playing with the unsw kids pretty much every week though...

Pretty laughable too seeing as unsw only has 4 girls going to Bathurst I think

Maybe something gets lost in a couple of hundred kilometres of Chinese whispers?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 17, 2009, 05:11:02 AM
switch a rookie guy for another more experience rookie guy
Waaaait a second. I just realised who you're talking about. That's a fucking massive upgrade. Stop talking yourself down!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 21, 2009, 07:46:05 AM
Maybe something gets lost in a couple of hundred kilometres of Chinese whispers?

Yeah, maybe....

Anyone heard from Suufa lately? They seem to have dropped off the planet....


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on June 21, 2009, 09:08:20 AM
yeah we disbanded. no more SUUFA after half the excutive and membership was arrested post end of semster party....new bikie gang laws got us.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on June 21, 2009, 09:51:05 AM
yeah we disbanded. no more SUUFA after half the excutive and membership was arrested post end of semster party....new bikie gang laws got us.

All that leather, it's a dead giveaway mate.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: timill on June 21, 2009, 09:53:08 PM
JUSTICE!!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 22, 2009, 10:15:52 PM
Bozza you still haven't told me who these 11 teams are.

Which reminds me, I should ask Humper who is playing SUG.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on June 23, 2009, 07:17:33 AM
Bozza you still haven't told me who these 11 teams are.

Alrighty, here are the teams that I have been sent...
ANU
CSU
CSU 2 (??)
NCLE
USYD Cumbo
USYD
UNSW
UTS 1
UTS 2


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 23, 2009, 08:52:10 AM
Southerns has Flinders (x2), Latrobe, Deakin, Monash, Melbourne and Ballarat.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on June 23, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
Southerns has Flinders (x2), Latrobe, Deakin, Monash, Melbourne and Ballarat.

so does that mean that everyone will play everyone?
or whatttt>?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 23, 2009, 04:52:14 PM
Yeah, probably a full round robin day 1 and 2, with semis and medal games day 3.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on June 23, 2009, 06:40:58 PM
Hey Bozza, 2 Newcastle teams have registered and paid for EUGs in Bathurst.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on June 23, 2009, 10:18:06 PM
Sorry about that, I got an email from AUS saying that...
CSU (2 teams)
NCLE (2 teams)
UTS (1 team)

Sorry about any confusion!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on June 24, 2009, 05:50:41 PM
I hear on the grapevine that the Gak is thinking about doing a masters at monash, although I'm not sure if its starting in the middle of this year or next year.

ANU will be stronger this year, with the likes of the amazing AJ, Lucy Stevenson, Ian Mck and Andrew Sutton taking the field. Should do much better than last year.

Also, rumours abound that the AUG's winning Erin Wallis and general all-round chump, Thomas Watson, will be starting masters programs at the ANU after World Clubs... Ahhh, the joys of public service funded higher education. I suppose we better convince Waz he needs a Masters as well.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 25, 2009, 02:49:50 AM
Just like to throw in a blatant plug here...

If you're thinking of getting new uniforms, give Zone a shot. As well as being sweet shirts, they are dirt cheap and have bent over backwards to accommodate our tricky printing requests. Their customer service has been fantastic as well - I added a last minute change to our jersey order today and I got a reply about 90 minutes later as well as assistance in making the payment through Paypal. Turnaround time is just over a week.

Check it out - www.frisbeeclothing.com


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on June 25, 2009, 03:24:08 AM
Which fabric are you ordering, Simmo?

They did the Melbourne Hat shirt, and I'm hoping for their sake that Zone's material has changed since. It's heavy, doesn't breathe, never dries and runs like stupid. I'd prefer to play in cotton.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 25, 2009, 04:04:20 AM
Just the SuperflyI. Would like to have given SuperflyX a go but we already did a run of SuperflyI in February so kept it again for consistency's sake.

It's actually pretty good for the cold climate down here in Mexico. Not sure how it'll go on the Gold Coast though.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 26, 2009, 05:50:55 AM
We are going with Zone for our uniforms. Look out for the navy and red! Only downside is, shirts are single coloured. Print can be done in a different colour though so it makes for simple and possibly elegant strips depending on how good your design is.

yeah we disbanded. no more SUUFA after half the excutive and membership was arrested post end of semster party....new bikie gang laws got us.

 ;D Their isn't going to be any hiding at bathurst.  ;D

I hear on the grapevine that the Gak is thinking about doing a masters at monash, although I'm not sure if its starting in the middle of this year or next year.

ANU will be stronger this year, with the likes of the amazing AJ, Lucy Stevenson, Ian Mck and Andrew Sutton taking the field. Should do much better than last year.

Also, rumours abound that the AUG's winning Erin Wallis and general all-round chump, Thomas Watson, will be starting masters programs at the ANU after World Clubs... Ahhh, the joys of public service funded higher education. I suppose we better convince Waz he needs a Masters as well.

Where was Gak playing last year? I remember someone coming up with a crock and bull story about Gak playing with some AUGs team or other. I'll believe it when he is on the line, pulling for a monash game.

ANU seems to be cyclical. Weren't they one of the most feared unis three years ago? Regardless, they are some strong pick ups and don't they have Mika as well? We'll see what happens in bathurst... Potential darkhorses to medal.

If they manage to pick up Twats and erin, they may even be a potential to sneak into the top 8 at AUGs. From memory Erin was the one person who had a good enough game to be noticed around the Joel and Alec show. Which is to say: she played awesome and was vastly under recognized.

Sorry about that, I got an email from AUS saying that...
CSU (2 teams)
NCLE (2 teams)
UTS (1 team)

Sorry about any confusion!!

Funny how two of the smallest unis managed to get two teams while all the "big sydney unis" got one... Watch out for the CSU-Newcastle combined party assault. With Craigie leading the charge and Tall James shredding the dance floor its going to be all trouble and no class ;D .


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tenk283 on June 30, 2009, 05:24:59 AM
Anyway, bets on placings?

1st: Newcastle A
2nd: Usyd
3rd: UTS
4th: ANU
5th: CSU
6th: Newcastle B
7th: UNSW
8th: Cumbo

Uts for a medal!!! WooT!

We're Black
We're Teal
We're Pure Sex Appeal
We're U-T-S!!!

But seriously, looking at stuff on paper; With henry and linus heading things up with evan,that other big behemoth they have (i can't remember his name), plus a girl line that is rather athletic, they should beat CSU who have Mark and Craigie. They should also beat ANU that are an unknown quantity due to not playing last year and who is filling in the gaps around their pick ups. Word is UNSW isn't going to rate it this year but should still beat cumbo which are apparently really bad.

We will beat Usyd in the final though, because we are sick of losing to them.  ;D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on June 30, 2009, 06:00:38 AM
ANU should beat UTS if they keep their heads together.

1. NCLE A
2. USYD M
3. ANU
4. UTS
5. CSU
6. UNSW
7. USYD C
8. NCLE B

From the disembodied scores I have been receiving here on ultitalk, my mentat mind concludes that UTS, while promising, aren't gelling too well. I hope EUGs is the crucible that gets them into shape, I'd love to see them beat Sydney later on in the year.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Timma on June 30, 2009, 07:00:50 AM
I was wearing the Superfly X gear at the camp (I was wearing the men's top from my old team: http://www.frisbeeclothing.com/component/aprilmart/detail/3-womens-jerseys/55-teamphn-originaljersey.html (http://www.frisbeeclothing.com/component/aprilmart/detail/3-womens-jerseys/55-teamphn-originaljersey.html)). I'm quite a fan of it and was pretty impressed with their customisation service.

I haven't noticed the material being heavy when wet but that may be due to always wearing skins. Also, I generally prefer a heavier top than an ultra-light material, mostly because I end up destroying thin materials when laying out :D. The Pirates Heart Ninjas gear has successfully survived a lot of laying out + normal wear and tear which meets my benchmark for gear. Plus the white comes back in the wash (cough cough Gaia).

I'd go with them again for gear, but YMMV.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on June 30, 2009, 07:43:26 AM
I think the 1v2 and the 3v4 games will be really epic.  Everyone seems to be underrating ANU a bit because they haven't played against them, but I think they'll definitely be a solid team come EUGs so long as they don't make AJ do all the work :P

Don't worry Tiger I'll be bringing my extra-firm hold gel to EUGs, so we'll be gelling like there's no tomorrow!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: biskit on June 30, 2009, 08:08:15 AM
ANU is weak for EUGs with a few girls out but AJ will smash it up with some good support from some very talented newbies. They could definately take a scalp or two. Littletoms extras are mainly in for AUGs.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 30, 2009, 08:37:18 AM
1. Newwie
2. Sydney (how many finals is that now?)
3. UTS
4. ANU
5. Falcons
6. fUNSWitch
7. Newwie B
8. Cumbo


Southerns...

1. Monash
2. Melbourne
3. Flinders
4. Latrobe
5. Deakin
6. Other Flinders
7. Ballarat


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on June 30, 2009, 08:40:23 AM
Southerns...

1. Monash
2. Melbourne
3. Flinders
4. Latrobe
5. Deakin
6. Other Flinders
7. Ballarat

Is that just an excuse to cheer for the underdogs?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on June 30, 2009, 05:40:56 PM
Quote
Quote from: simmo on Today at 08:37:18 AM
Southerns...

1. Monash
2. Melbourne
3. Flinders
4. Latrobe
5. Deakin
6. Other Flinders
7. Ballarat

Is that just an excuse to cheer for the underdogs?

What do you mean? The Gak is playing for Monash, they can't be underdogs...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on June 30, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
I suppose you believe the "Rick Astley is dead" rumour as well.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Hugh McCormack on July 01, 2009, 12:34:56 AM

But seriously, looking at stuff on paper; With henry and linus heading things up with evan,that other big behemoth they have (i can't remember his name), plus a girl line that is rather athletic, they should beat CSU who have Mark and Craigie. They should also beat ANU that are an unknown quantity due to not playing last year and who is filling in the gaps around their pick ups. Word is UNSW isn't going to rate it this year but should still beat cumbo which are apparently really bad.


Pretty sure you're talking about Anapatt. That guy's a beast.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on July 01, 2009, 03:21:06 AM
I'd say they're talking about Ashley?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ashry on July 01, 2009, 09:25:12 PM

But seriously, looking at stuff on paper; With henry and linus heading things up with evan,that other big behemoth they have (i can't remember his name), plus a girl line that is rather athletic, they should beat CSU who have Mark and Craigie. They should also beat ANU that are an unknown quantity due to not playing last year and who is filling in the gaps around their pick ups. Word is UNSW isn't going to rate it this year but should still beat cumbo which are apparently really bad.


I'd say they're talking about Ashley?

I don't think Tenk knows me because I definitely haven't played with or against/don't know anyone from UNCLE. Anyway, are you calling me a big behemoth Tiger?

Personally, I thought he was talking about suj, but then remembered he isn't coming to EUG's, so by process of elimination it must be jimmy jump or chook? i'm going with jimmy jump


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on July 02, 2009, 12:05:27 AM
I don't think Tenk knows me because I definitely haven't played with or against/don't know anyone from UNCLE.

It's sort of a recurring theme - read enough ultitalk, and Dan will eventually wax lyrical on all sorts of stuff he has no clue about.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on July 06, 2009, 12:16:19 AM
Results from EUG - http://www.unigames.com.au/ladder.asp?comp=1166&OrgID=1

Results from SUG - http://www.unigames.com.au/ladder.asp?comp=1188&OrgID=1


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: AlecD on July 06, 2009, 06:31:56 PM
EUG Day 1 = warmup day? closest game 15-6...

Who is UNDA?

SUG: Go Flinders  :D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2009, 09:41:04 PM
University of Notre Dame i think....its a private university.

I know someone on the team, and they thought they would try out frisbee because they never heard of it before and thought they might have a chance at winning. I laughed on hearing this.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2009, 09:44:49 PM
As for warm up day....i think its just because of the fact there isnt much depth. If ANU loses to Sydney 15-2, and they are gonna finish in the 3-5 range, then you can guess there is a pretty substantial drop off from the top 2.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 06, 2009, 11:19:04 PM
Same with Usyd (15) d. CSU (3)... Big drop from 2 to 3-5.

I'm interested to hear about CSU/UTS/ANU... Be a good three-way for 3rd... altough I think UTS over ANU/CSU.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 07, 2009, 05:12:29 PM
UTS vs USYD in one Semi Final
CSU vs NCLE in the other

USYD/NCLE gold medal match and CSU/UTS bronze medal match

COME ON CSU!!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on July 07, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
Monash v Flinders Uni 1 in the gold medal game at SUG. They have to play each other twice today as they have their round robin match against each other followed by the final as there are no semi finals at SUG. Both teams are 5-0 and 3rd place is 3-2 and can't catch up.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 07, 2009, 11:00:17 PM
Usyd Vs Ncle Gold Medal Match
CSU Vs UTS Bronze Medal Match

Tanty said that UTS were up against Usyd, but Usyd came back to take the match in the last 10 minutes. NCLE easily accounted for CSU.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 07, 2009, 11:42:25 PM
7 Newcastle 2
8 Cumbo
9 UNDA
10 CSU Wagga


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on July 08, 2009, 01:05:58 AM
SUG:

1. Flinders 1
2. Monash
3. Melbourne
4. La Trobe
5. Deakin
6. Ballarat
7. Flinders 2


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 08, 2009, 01:10:45 AM
CSU d. UTS for the Bronze medal!
Csu were up 7-4, UTS fought back with some big plays to lock it up at 7-7 at full time.

CSU finish the game with a long throw from Craigie to Tim Foggo for the Bronze!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on July 08, 2009, 06:49:12 AM
No big surprises at SUG. Flinders went up 6-0 pretty early but then Monash switched on and made more of a game. Melbourne took the bronze over Latrobe and Deakin beat Ballarat 15-8 for 5th place. Shaun Johnson (Deakin) and Jude Mitchell (Melbourne) were MVPs.

We didn't have any of our "big name signings" for this tournament. Very similar line-up to last year's AUG team. Injuries killed any hope of a run at bronze - two dislocated shoulders, rolled ankle and buggered wrist ligaments (all on day one) took out three girls and a guy. Still, our new recruits played a lot better than we expected and are looking good for improvement. We came away with spirit too so we're happy with that.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rachelg on July 08, 2009, 11:44:08 AM
Just a bit more info about results already mentioned:

UTS v SUUFA semi-final
Was very close for the first 60 minutes. Trading for that entire period, at one point UTS even took the break to be up 5-4. However, SUUFA took half 8-6 (at ~65 min mark of an 80 min game) and then UTS started on D. SUUFA increased the intensity of their zone after half, and eventually won 12-6. The thing that surprised me was the number of times SUUFA turned over the disc - of course UTS's D was outstanding  ;D but we were getting the disc back 3 or 4 times a point.

Bronze medal match
CSU is all about Mark Evans (with solid support play from Cragie). UTS started off slowly and gave up a lead very early on (2-0, then 3-1). Very different game to the semi where SUUFA is pretty solid across the board, whereas CSU is pretty much a 2-man band. As Bozza already mentioned it got to 7-4, then brought back to 7-7. UTS started off playing man D but CSU were scoring pretty easily. We changed up our D to zone with an assassin on Mark. This didn't necessarily keep Mark out of the play but certainly forced a lot more passes (and therefore more turns). There were quite a few calls in this stage of the game, I'd like to think all legitimate but certainly some were influential in the way the game flowed. Time-cap went during the point to even it at 7-7 all so we were playing to 9. CSU took half 8-7 with UTS receiving on the mirror. We had played a pretty successful female iso with myself and Ant Melo which we started off with again. Double-turnover and we had the disc back but CSU (unfortunately!) decided to put a guy on me which made things a bit harder to get moving. We turned it for a second time and CSU didn't need a second opportunity taking the game 9-7.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on July 08, 2009, 08:07:54 PM
Newcastle beat Sydney 11-5 in the final at EUG's. Sydney started strongly and was up 4-3 but Newcastle cleaned up their offense and finished well. The standard was a bit low with many turnovers from both teams...possibly as a result of not having had many other close games. (Newcastle had only conceded 10 points in 5 games before the final, including 3 15-0 walkovers).

It was good to see EUG's get back up to 10 teams however there was a massive difference in skill levels and lots of 15-0 games, even between lower ranked teams. Newcastle B did well to finish 7th (It's a shame the draw didn't allow them to play UNSW who came 6th as that would have been an exciting game) and won spirit.

Expect Sydney to have a stronger team come AUG's while Newcastle will lose Dave Jarrott but hopefully keep the rest of the team together.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on July 08, 2009, 08:32:58 PM
Was EUG only 15/80min games? SUG was 17/100min, but we had less teams. Played round robin then playoffs with no semis.

Rach - I would have thought they'd man-mark you earlier in the game. We did that a fair bit against Latrobe (Crystal) and for a few points against Melbourne (Mish Phillips). It's an underused tactic in uni ultimate I reckon.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rachelg on July 08, 2009, 10:32:09 PM
Was EUG only 15/80min games? SUG was 17/100min, but we had less teams. Played round robin then playoffs with no semis.

Yeah EUG was 15/80 min - I assume because for some reason there were only 2 fields and so there was a fair bit of time pressure to get all games completed. On the first day there were 6 rounds of games (we didn't finish playing until after 6pm?). I'm not sure why there was only 2 fields used as there were unused fields close by. To be honest given the number of white washes it probably didn't matter as many of the games were completed within an hour or less.

Our draw was 2 pools of 5, with top team advancing directly to semis, and 2 & 3 in each pool playing a pre-semi. We had 7 games but I think the majority of teams had 6 games.

Rach - I would have thought they'd man-mark you earlier in the game. We did that a fair bit against Latrobe (Crystal) and for a few points against Melbourne (Mish Phillips). It's an underused tactic in uni ultimate I reckon.
I think that final point of the game was the only time I was man-marked all tournament.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: timill on July 09, 2009, 12:42:02 AM
We came away with spirit too so we're happy with that.

Have I taught you nothing??


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on July 09, 2009, 01:50:15 AM
We followed all instructions but I think people thought we were being ironic.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on July 09, 2009, 04:36:11 AM
Was EUG only 15/80min games? SUG was 17/100min, but we had less teams. Played round robin then playoffs with no semis.

Yeah 80min games with points cap at 15

Two draws where proposed one with one pool of 10 teams and 10 games the other with 2 pools of 5 and 6-7 games. The 2 pools required less fields and didn't have us starting as early/late

and yes as observed most games where massively one sided in score (although uts vs usyd felt a lot closer than the score suggested). It took until day 2 for a game to go to time cap (CSU vs ANU) and then games got a bit closer on the last day.

UNDA turned up with 7 on the roster and played with 6 complete rookies and CSU Wagga had 8 complete rookies. Cumbo had a team of almost complete rookies (and Steph and Gemma "I caught steef's himmar")
So there was some big drops in the standards between the teams... and noone showed much mercy... UNDA vs Wagga was kinda amusing to watch (unda won 8-6)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on July 10, 2009, 12:26:11 AM
YEAH FLINDERS!!!

that is all


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Big Tom on July 11, 2009, 04:53:14 AM
Having been a member of Suufa for more than 3 years now, it was high time that I popped my uni games cherry, and I can say that I had a wonderful time in Bathurst, and that silver on my first attempt was very rewarding.

Firstly congratulations to Newcastle A who played brilliantly throughout the whole tournament and really stepped it up a notch in a final that was closer than the score suggests, and alot cloer than you'd expect when one of the teams had stayed in and gone to bed instead of attending the greatest superheroes and villians partys' i've ever seen. :P ( and yes being captain planet is the most fun ever!!)

Secondly my humble opinion as to why a superior UTS teams lost their bronze medal match. I had the good fortune to see most of the match, and for large chunks of it the team I saw in green was not the UTS that i had come to know and love. UTS has always played with great spirit and have kepth their heads up no matter the cicumstances, and are always able to bounce back and be positive (I saw this alot in our semi against them). However in their medal match i heard lots of shouting and swearing coming from the field and the team seemed frustrated and downhearted  :(. Even after they fought back to 7-7 they still didn't seem to have that positive UTS spirit which had helped them play so well in the rest of the tournament. I only hope that they will have learnt from this experience and at AUGs when they play Suufa in the Gold medal match :D they will play with the same spirit and joy which is a hallmark of their team.

And yay for mega posts :D


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on July 12, 2009, 04:09:21 AM
blah blah blah writing lots blah blah blah

But yeah Tommy's got a point... UTS didn't play with that unflappable enthusiasm that we know and love. There was tension and a little bit of angry. But I think that comes into most teams playing in the pressure games...
Of course this was going up against CSU who were still channeling the "Bozz era" with their "H! A! P! P! Y! I'm H. A. P. P. Y!" chant...
CSU had a few angry moments ("Look at yourselves! Call that a stack? I'm disgusted! Have a look at yourselves!") but they generally all came from Mark and I think he'd be pulling them out at the team regardless of the situation. I think the pressure and angry got to UTS a little, especially after the game against suufa where they gave everything they could... and came pretty close


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on July 15, 2009, 12:06:07 AM
So with EUG and SUG all wrapped up, who are the serious contenders for September? Who are the dark horses who've got a shot at some big name scalps?

Results make me think it's Newc, USyd, Flinders, Monash, Melbourne... any deeper insight on that?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on July 15, 2009, 03:29:52 AM
Where is UQ in all of this buddy? Surely they haven't gone from the highest of highs to the lowest of lows, a la, UNSW?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on July 15, 2009, 04:13:52 AM
I would've thought our 2007 and 2008 seasons had taken care of the highs and lows already... where do we go from here?

We're looking alright - we've got a number of people excited about playing this year, which is kinda important. Will have a better idea in a few weeks... there's some discussion happening at the moment which might affect things...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on July 15, 2009, 06:13:33 AM
Flinders were at full strength at SUG but Monash (missing Cletus) and Melbourne (Freise and Tarrant) weren't. I reckon that the quarter finals are going to be South-dominated again this year.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: SammyO on July 16, 2009, 12:39:21 AM
Flinders weren't quite at full strength there Simmo. Got a couple of guy pick ups to make (Robbie and maybe Alec) and we were pretty light on in our girls.
But yeah, I think the south is looking great to flood the quarters again.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on July 16, 2009, 05:04:27 AM
Robbie's a chump. I stand by my words.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Lou357 on July 21, 2009, 04:47:22 AM
I was only doing as an educational tool, trying to show future recruits how to mark

Hahahhahaa. Your just lucky Looodles doesnt read this blog...



Yes i do.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on July 21, 2009, 09:07:44 AM
OK, since everyone keeps asking...

I should have an answer on the squad size next week. The powers-that-be at AUS are reviewing sport rules next week. I submitted a formal proposal requesting the change outlining the reasons so it's now out of my hands.

It was really weird - I had to argue that it was completely necessary for player welfare, but also argue that not many teams would choose the extra 2 so it won't result in dozens more people they have to account for. But the overall argument was that "it brings AUG squads into line with other national events".

Quote
But Simmo, there aren't any number limits on Nationals and Mixed Nationals rosters!

I know that, but AUS like their events being regarded as important national-level competitions.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on July 22, 2009, 08:08:02 AM
Yay for Simmo. I'm so glad there is a voice of reason in the whole unigames process now...I'm still recovering from the mental scars of 2007, I hope to one day take the unigames field again...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on July 22, 2009, 09:33:02 PM
5 days of ultimate can be pretty hard on uni teams.  Considering average squad size for nationals would be 16-18 and that's with 1 less day and less games per day (on average).  Not that you can compare AUGs to nationals in terms of intensity though...

Any idea what the situation with lunches is going to be this year? 

How goes the efforts of making a crazy ANU team out of postgrads twats?  Got Waz, Matt and Jonno to enrol at ANU yet? :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on July 22, 2009, 11:23:28 PM
Bozza probably has a better idea of lunches that I do. Once a Competition Manager is appointed I have very little to do with the operational aspects of AUG.


By the way folks, Martin Laird Award nominations open on August 1st.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on July 23, 2009, 03:10:05 AM
My efforts are for heaps in the future... I'm rather busy until 2011, so probably have to wait till then.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 23, 2009, 08:07:37 AM
Bozza probably has a better idea of lunches that I do. Once a Competition Manager is appointed I have very little to do with the operational aspects of AUG.

I was going to get to this...

How were lunches at AUG08? What were you offered? How was it? Suggestions?

P.S Simmo, I just saw you from the VB ad on the NRL Footy Show like a bajillion times!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on July 24, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
Re: Increased team size, on the EUG post-tournament survey, I tried to get everyone there to circle the box about team size and request an increase to 18 - however after talking with the Sydney Uni AUS liason he said that the rules were set in concrete for 2009 - is this true? If so hopefully it will change in the future, but as for '09, we are making our selections within about a fortnight, including final details to SUSF. Any idea what the timeline is for this?

Well done bringing this to them, just shows that no one at AUS really has any idea how Ultimate is played...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Lou357 on July 26, 2009, 06:12:40 AM
Bozza probably has a better idea of lunches that I do. Once a Competition Manager is appointed I have very little to do with the operational aspects of AUG.

I was going to get to this...

How were lunches at AUG08? What were you offered? How was it? Suggestions?

P.S Simmo, I just saw you from the VB ad on the NRL Footy Show like a bajillion times!!


I don't intend to offend anyone but lunches at AUG last year were pretty bad...we often ended up getting our own stuff anyway. I think nationals style lunches with rolls, ham, cheese, etc etc, chips, choc/lollies, fruit would be awesome...however i do understand that cost is an issue.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on July 26, 2009, 07:29:44 PM
Bozza probably has a better idea of lunches that I do. Once a Competition Manager is appointed I have very little to do with the operational aspects of AUG.

I was going to get to this...

How were lunches at AUG08? What were you offered? How was it? Suggestions?

P.S Simmo, I just saw you from the VB ad on the NRL Footy Show like a bajillion times!!


I don't intend to offend anyone but lunches at AUG last year were pretty bad...we often ended up getting our own stuff anyway. I think nationals style lunches with rolls, ham, cheese, etc etc, chips, choc/lollies, fruit would be awesome...however i do understand that cost is an issue.

Did you have to pay extra on top of the player fee paid to AUS?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 27, 2009, 01:55:51 AM
Bozza probably has a better idea of lunches that I do. Once a Competition Manager is appointed I have very little to do with the operational aspects of AUG.

I was going to get to this...

How were lunches at AUG08? What were you offered? How was it? Suggestions?

P.S Simmo, I just saw you from the VB ad on the NRL Footy Show like a bajillion times!!


I don't intend to offend anyone but lunches at AUG last year were pretty bad...we often ended up getting our own stuff anyway. I think nationals style lunches with rolls, ham, cheese, etc etc, chips, choc/lollies, fruit would be awesome...however i do understand that cost is an issue.

Did you have to pay extra on top of the player fee paid to AUS?

Also what was the lunch for AUG's last year? (and was there a cost?)

I'm glad someone decided to respond to the post :)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on July 27, 2009, 02:37:32 AM
The lunches were corporate style lunches - each player (well in the end there was massive problems with people missing out) got a little box with a sandwhich, piece of chocolate/cake, piece of fruit and a juice box. They were OK but not really enough for 3 games a day. We didn't pay anything extra on top of the player fee which is why the AUS guy thought we were a bunch of dicks when we kept complaining :) As far as I know we were the only sport to get them. So it was great that they budgeted them for us (because we are so cheap otherwise with no refs etc) but the implementation was not great. If you worked out a budget for frisbee style lunches for all the teams for the 5 days (and had volunteers willing to organise it) and took that to AUS then that might work. Good luck!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on July 27, 2009, 03:00:47 AM
The lunches were corporate style lunches - each player (well in the end there was massive problems with people missing out) got a little box with a sandwhich, piece of chocolate/cake, piece of fruit and a juice box. They were OK but not really enough for 3 games a day. We didn't pay anything extra on top of the player fee which is why the AUS guy thought we were a bunch of dicks when we kept complaining :) As far as I know we were the only sport to get them. So it was great that they budgeted them for us (because we are so cheap otherwise with no refs etc) but the implementation was not great. If you worked out a budget for frisbee style lunches for all the teams for the 5 days (and had volunteers willing to organise it) and took that to AUS then that might work. Good luck!

Thanks Chris. I'll suggest this to AUS. Cross your fingers AUG'ers!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: SammyO on July 28, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
Can I make a request of no raw broccoli however?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on July 29, 2009, 04:01:39 AM
Can I make a request of no raw broccoli however?

Yes, the broccoli fund could be better spent ;)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on July 29, 2009, 11:42:43 PM
Raw cauliflower??


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: SammyO on July 30, 2009, 10:29:34 PM
Raw cauliflower??

Works for me


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 03, 2009, 02:55:58 AM
Ok, folks. Here's the word (and it's not the bird for once)...

I just got off the phone with AUS about a few things AUG-related. It was mostly operational stuff we talked about (draw, seedings, fields and stuff) but I brought up the two issues we want addressed right now and here's what I got...

- Squad Sizes
I know I said "end of July", but it turns out I had read my emails wrong. The "end of July" was the deadline to submit proposed rule changes for all sports. Apparently we're not the only sport who is after some changes, and there have been quite a lot put forward. They are all being reviewed over the next couple of days with a tentative result of Friday. I understand that people are doing selections and whatnot right now but I'm pushing it pretty strongly.

I assure everyone that as soon as I know the answer, I will be emailing all club presidents/captains directly.


- Lunches
You've got Bozza to thank for this one. AUS are happy to provide them again based on Bozza's recommendations, but what's blocking it right now is Gold Coast City Council's (apparently very strict) food service regulations. AUS are pushing to get access to the cricket clubrooms at the fields for the week to store/serve food to keep the council happy, but there's no guarantees yet. Stay tuned.


Any questions can be sent on the back of a postcard to the usual address.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 03, 2009, 08:39:22 AM
Anyone know where they are staying yet?
I'm about to start looking for an apartment for the week!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on August 03, 2009, 09:14:05 AM
Mantra Sun City

USYD have booked out the whole thing apparently, looks nice...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 03, 2009, 09:58:12 AM
Whole Ballarat Uni squad is booked in at Vibe Hotel on Ferny Ave. I'm surprised they're having us back. But then again they made enough of us last time from fines and cleaning bills to have their staff Christmas party in Vegas.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: SammyO on August 04, 2009, 02:22:02 AM
Flinders is at Club Surfers. I'm pretty sure thats where we were last time


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 04, 2009, 04:27:20 AM
Holy shit...

I just got an email from AUS with some potentially mental news. Stay tuned.


-edit- It's not THAT mental, but it's still pretty cool


-edit again- I completely fail at reading comprehension. There's no news. Let's pretend this never happened.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: BJ on August 04, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
Keen to avoid $400 return flights to the gold coast, Tiger is offering $88 flights to Sydney, just wondering if any other teams are catching a bus/train up there? Or if there were any seats in cars?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 05, 2009, 12:07:16 AM
Accomodation for me sorted. I'm at Chevron Apartments!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Stafman on August 05, 2009, 12:18:45 AM
Mantra Sun City

USYD have booked out the whole thing apparently, looks nice...

If thats the hotel i think it is, you should have a sweet stay. They have a pretty decent sized pool (resort style) and water slides. Can easily imagine lots of drunk (and sober) USYD kiddies running riot at that place.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on August 05, 2009, 01:28:33 AM
Mantra Sun City

USYD have booked out the whole thing apparently, looks nice...

If thats the hotel i think it is, you should have a sweet stay. They have a pretty decent sized pool (resort style) and water slides. Can easily imagine lots of drunk (and sober) USYD kiddies running riot at that place.

Ai that is the one, not far from cavil either. think you might not go to well if you mess up there rooms though. (stay as far away from rugby players as possible)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2009, 05:20:53 AM
UQ put thier team up on the website. I dont recognise a few names from nationals rosters etc, so i am gonna assume they are seppoes, but by the quality of their aussie players it looks like a hell of a team. Should be very very tough to beat. Its nice that they are coming this year....i wonder if the Gold Coast will be the extent of their travels in future considering its gonna be there evey 2 years and they can feild squads like that.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on August 05, 2009, 12:39:01 PM
Missing last year certainly wasn't an intentional decision on UQ's behalf... there was a few things affecting the lack of a team, of which I think the two biggest were: a) an expensive Nationals campaign (Perth + Canberra) coming up for some players, and b) changing of the leadership guard, as Bretty (the man who really drove our Uni Games push) was no longer with us...

I'm out in a few months, so won't be part of things n future years... but I'd like to think that we can get ourselves better organised and driven so we're sending competitive teams both near and far... it's a bit elitist and snobby to just sit tight and only play when it's down the road, and we'd like to think neither of those adjectives apply to us :-)


As for this year: bring it.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Pallen on August 05, 2009, 05:42:14 PM
As I said on the UQ website. That team is unbelievable.

I can only count 4 players on the list that I don't recognise as Aussies. But they might be because I haven't really seen the players this year.

John hit the nail on the head with those reasons for not going last year along with the option of playing at mixed nats instead which was in Brisbane and UQ entered a team at. Last year was sort of a changeover year between the older stalwart leading players not being around and the newer leadership finding their feet. Seems to be nicely in balance now and it would be sad if they did just keep playing gold coast tournies.

Go team.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 05, 2009, 08:23:18 PM
So are UQ using those same horrendous uniforms as 07 or will you have a new kit designed to match up with silver accessories?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on August 06, 2009, 05:29:56 PM
Look out for a new suufa dark strip at uni games, unveiled for the first time. It's quite simplisitic...rather a different approach from the UQ lovers.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: biskit on August 06, 2009, 08:13:53 PM
Any news on these team sizes? Hopefully it all comes out for the better.

Im sure ANU is in the same situation as most of the unis; we really want to let people book flights etc as early as possible. Also, we are booked into the 'Moorings on Cavill'... Anybody stayed there before or are there this year? The first place we tried was all booked out by Newcastle.

Also, Shenanigans details are up for this year, see the other thread for details, but it would be great to get the uni teams down to canberra for the weekend. B squads are encouraged as well.

Ps. ANU just picked up a 6'6 seppo plus some returning alumni ;D, looking alot stronger for AUGs than EUGs!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on August 09, 2009, 10:00:39 PM
Simon Talbot  ***ATTENTION ALL UNI ULTIMATE FOLK*** Squad size increase to 18 has been approved. More details to come via email tomorrow.

from Facebook

for the Unis that have already picked their teams of 16, will you be adding to your team size? Monash picked their team two weeks ago and will be facing a similar dilemma (as we had to cut about 6 guys and a girl)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on August 09, 2009, 11:19:14 PM
Macquarie haven't selected a team, so I guess we're cutting less dudes now.

Yeah organisational lethargy - way to really pay off!
: August 10, 2009, 02:08:51 PM
Also those of you who have selected your teams, put up your team lists! (on AFDA, or on here)

Let's get this board back where it belongs - frivolous gossip and baseless speculation about where everyone will finish.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Big Tom on August 09, 2009, 11:42:20 PM
Let's get this board back where it belongs - frivolous gossip and baseless speculation about where everyone will finish.

I've heard that Tiger smells. And that mac's team is going to be made up entirely of one armed robots.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Frank on August 10, 2009, 12:04:17 AM
So are UQ using those same horrendous uniforms as 07 or will you have a new kit designed to match up with silver accessories?

Nah man that strip was sick, the light blue number with the wings on the back? I was a big fan...original and interesting.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Ian M on August 10, 2009, 12:21:14 AM
Let's get this board back where it belongs - frivolous gossip and baseless speculation about where everyone will finish.

I've heard that Tiger smells. And that mac's team is going to be made up entirely of one armed robots.

Left handed robots.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on August 10, 2009, 12:40:05 AM
So are UQ using those same horrendous uniforms as 07 or will you have a new kit designed to match up with silver accessories?

Nah man that strip was sick, the light blue number with the wings on the back? I was a big fan...original and interesting.

Frank loved that outfit. I heard he traded for one to wear at Mardi Gras that year.....

I was happy not to trade. I prefer frisbee shirts that don't make me look like a raging homo.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Pallen on August 10, 2009, 07:12:28 AM
haha, light blue...that was the plan, light aqua greenie sort of colour was the outcome. Well done VC.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 10, 2009, 08:22:02 PM
I've posted BUUF's team on the AFDA rego site.

I'm not sure if BUUF is going to pick extra players. A couple of folk we cut are signing up for other sports. We might cross-register one or two. I dunno - absolutely none of this is up to me.


By the way, when talking to your uni sports people about the squad size change, tell them that the Sports Specific Rules will be updated this week and will be noted in their next AUS Operations Memo.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 10, 2009, 08:23:19 PM
By the way, I still don't understand all this UTS hype.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on August 10, 2009, 09:50:27 PM
I thought everyone had gotten over the UTS hype after EUGs?  UTS is going to be a lot stronger than previous years, but we're definitely not in medal contention.  My aim for the tournament is to make the quarters, which going from the teams I'm hearing about, is going to be quite a tough ask.  Still, aim high right?

It's a shame more teams aren't that keen on signing their players up on the afda site.  Makes for slightly more guided speculation :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on August 11, 2009, 12:27:10 AM
I posted the Newcastle team up (minus a beginner and a seppo who don't have AFDA numbers yet). Our team is slightly weaker than it was at EUGs due mainly to Dave Jarrott's virility. We hope to improve on last years 8th place where we seeded well into the quarters and then lost our last 3 games.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on August 11, 2009, 02:24:10 AM
Hobbit couldn't be convinced to have one more run around at uni games?

A few other unis have posted their teams too. Flinders look like they're definitely losing Alec but other than that look pretty good. Monash minus OSh still looks respectable too. I hear that the Sydney uni team has been announced. Looks like they've dropped their "not selecting calan" policy for 2009


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on August 11, 2009, 02:55:26 AM
I thought we had Hobbit convinced, especially when they increased the squad size and he wouldn't have been kicking a new person off the team. Maybe he'll change his mind if we tell him Piers is still playing so he won't be the only player old enough to be other players dads...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 11, 2009, 03:31:27 AM
On paper, Monash are a medal winning team and Flinders aren't, although I guess they haven't listed their full team yet.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on August 11, 2009, 03:56:13 AM
Haha I'm sure that'll convince him.  They can both sit at the bar at uni games and trade stories about "the good old days" and complain about what's wrong with the youth of today :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 11, 2009, 04:19:47 AM
Simmo - Can you chuck up the link for AUG rego?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 11, 2009, 04:21:32 AM
Haha I'm sure that'll convince him.  They can both sit at the bar at uni games and trade stories about "the good old days" and complain about what's wrong with the youth of today :P
We had a moment like that at Div 3 last night... I'm sitting on the sideline with an icepack strapped to the leg, Richo comes over and we talk about those damn kids. Shannon trots over between points and the youth bashing continues :)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on August 11, 2009, 05:05:21 AM
http://www.afda.com/rego/showdivision.php?divisionid=1159


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on August 11, 2009, 06:56:26 AM
Let's get this board back where it belongs - frivolous gossip and baseless speculation about where everyone will finish.

I've heard that Tiger smells. And that mac's team is going to be made up entirely of one armed robots.

Left handed one armed ninja robots... and Tiger...

I thought everyone had gotten over the UTS hype after EUGs? 

I was just reloading... Hype hype hype!
I do *heart* UTS

And given that Mac will be actually going this time (me included hopefully) I may have to save some heart for my team

trade stories about "the good old days" and complain about what's wrong with the youth of today :P

I do that already... and I'm pretty sure noone playing is young enough to be my child... <expletive deleted>ing kids... getting younger every day


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 11, 2009, 07:44:43 AM
http://www.afda.com/rego/showdivision.php?divisionid=1159
Thanks Suj. i've now chucked the link up in a couple of places. Hopefully that means we'll get more signups!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Rickert on August 11, 2009, 07:46:22 AM
The University of Victoria, Wellington seems to be sending a team to AUGs.  Does anyone know how strong the Kiwi side will be?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on August 11, 2009, 08:06:53 AM
Adelaide Uni is up...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 11, 2009, 10:19:53 PM
Adelaide Uni/UniSA is up...
Get it right, champ.

NZ team will be beginners/intermediates.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: wisey on August 12, 2009, 10:36:12 PM
no latuf this year... We had some serious problems with our uni charging us 1100 to go for just flights, rego and accomm. So with only 7 people willing to pay it we just couldnt make it!

Super pissed as it could be my last year... Maybe ill fail a subject and come back from one more!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on August 13, 2009, 01:10:06 AM
Who fucken cares about LaTuff. They were a failure of a team last year. In fact, they underperformed so much last year, they didn't even bother failing this year. The competition will be better off without them


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on August 13, 2009, 03:25:26 AM
Unlike Monash, who really exceeded everyone's expectations last year and had a cracker of a result... wherever they ended up finishing...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 13, 2009, 04:19:58 AM
Pretty rich coming from someone on a team who backed up a gold medal with a failure to put a team together.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on August 13, 2009, 09:26:32 AM
FATALITY!

Round 2: FIGHT!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on August 13, 2009, 07:51:14 PM
It's good to see the heckling starting up already. What I'm curious about though is the draw. I'm a big fan of lots of games over the 5 days. Something in the 9-11 range. I really enjoy playing games at AUG and the more the merrier. Also with the new 18 person team limit more games will benefit those teams with more depth to their roster and who use both their girl and guy lines. But basically more games = more fun.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2009, 07:55:27 PM
Has anyone added to their roster now that this new rule has come out? As far as i know USYD hasnt, the announcement probably just came a little late for us.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on August 13, 2009, 09:03:08 PM
Has anyone added to their roster now that this new rule has come out? As far as i know USYD hasnt, the announcement probably just came a little late for us.

We've added one more girl thus far


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 13, 2009, 10:29:41 PM
It's good to see the heckling starting up already. What I'm curious about though is the draw. I'm a big fan of lots of games over the 5 days. Something in the 9-11 range. I really enjoy playing games at AUG and the more the merrier. Also with the new 18 person team limit more games will benefit those teams with more depth to their roster and who use both their girl and guy lines. But basically more games = more fun.
Depends how many teams come.

The feedback from last year was that 11 games was too many and the standard of the playoff games suffered as a result. They were all a case of "who can still move about" rather than "who is better at ultimate". Going for around 9 or 10 games this year. Also depends on the number of teams, and the single or split division.

I'll should know sometime after the 24th what teams we have, so we'll start bitching about the draw after that.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2009, 11:01:58 PM
i didnt mind 11 games....we did have a large and deep roster which played pretty even number of points across the tournament. apart from the 4 game day which was tough, it wasnt any more painful than any other frisbee tournament. however i can see how teams with smaller rosters or a small number of players who play a majority of points may find it tough....but we are there to (mostly) play frisbee, and 5 days is a long time.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 14, 2009, 12:55:44 AM
Yeah, it's easy enough for the large, experienced squads. The change is more accommodating to the mid-to-lower level teams who bring squads of 12 with about 20 games of experience between them.

The warmer weather also makes a difference. I remember the Friday games in 07 being more frisbee than ultimate.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on August 14, 2009, 01:26:25 AM
Quote
The warmer weather also makes a difference. I remember the Friday games in 07 being more frisbee than ultimate.

How would you know Pissy? Wasn't that the day you got carted off to hospital for being a dehydrated booze hound?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 14, 2009, 01:50:45 AM
No that was Wednesday.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on August 14, 2009, 07:58:19 PM
Yeah, Pissy started the booze hounding early.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 17, 2009, 03:54:47 AM
Any requests for the AUG draw format?

I'm probably gonna say no to all of them, but ask anyway.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: a1214 on August 17, 2009, 05:59:28 AM
its okay guys im coming to unigames now


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: cupcake on August 17, 2009, 07:54:02 AM
Any requests for the AUG draw format?

I'm probably gonna say no to all of them, but ask anyway.

swiss draw format.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 17, 2009, 08:50:37 AM
Any requests for the AUG draw format?
I'm probably gonna say no to all of them, but ask anyway.

* I ask for extended sleep ins on all days following nights that I engage in over-excessive drinking.
* I also request that people get in their requests now for pissy's consideration so I don't get yelled at on the GC when you didn't have your say now.
* Can I also request 1 hug per day timetabled into the draw :)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 17, 2009, 09:10:00 AM
swiss draw format.
Yes. Saves me work and puts it all on Bozza.

* I ask for extended sleep ins on all days following nights that I engage in over-excessive drinking.
* I also request that people get in their requests now for pissy's consideration so I don't get yelled at on the GC when you didn't have your say now.
* Can I also request 1 hug per day timetabled into the draw :)
No, yes and yes.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on August 17, 2009, 09:36:31 AM
* Can I also request 1 hug per day timetabled into the draw :)

I'll give you a hug... but I seriously doubt I'll limit myself to one hug per day...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: suj on August 17, 2009, 09:55:22 AM
i would love a hug right now :-/


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 17, 2009, 10:18:24 AM
Nominations are now open for the 2009 Martin Laird Award.

The Martin Laird Award is an award that seeks to recognise the achievements and efforts of Australian university ultimate players. We're not after the "best" player - we want to find the unheralded stars of the uni scene. The players who wear their team's colours with pride. The players who put in the effort at training and tournaments week after week. The players who help keep their club running. And the players who are the Nationals winners in years to come.

Each university club can nominate up to two players (one male and one female). Please include their name, their jersey number, a photo and a brief write-up on why they are being nominated.

Please visit this link (http://"http://2009lairdaward.blogspot.com/2008/08/martin-laird-award.html") for more information about the award, including the full criteria.

Please send your nominations to [email protected] before Sunday September 14th.

Nominations will be posted to the website (http://"http://2009lairdaward.blogspot.com/") as they are received.

Email me if you have any questions.


Regards,

Simon Talbot
AFDA National Universities Coordinator


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Pallen on August 17, 2009, 01:33:02 PM
Swiss draw format...can someone explain that too me, the number of different explanations we received last week confused the crap out of me. In the end we decided to just finish above the teams that had to go into the swiss draw so we wouldn't have to think too much.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 17, 2009, 04:56:51 PM
Nominations are now open for the 2009 Martin Laird Award.

The Martin Laird Award is an award that seeks to recognise the achievements and efforts of Australian university ultimate players. We're not after the "best" player - we want to find the unheralded stars of the uni scene. The players who wear their team's colours with pride. The players who put in the effort at training and tournaments week after week. The players who help keep their club running. And the players who are the Nationals winners in years to come.

Each university club can nominate up to two players (one male and one female). Please include their name, their jersey number, a photo and a brief write-up on why they are being nominated.

Please visit this link (http://"http://2009lairdaward.blogspot.com/2008/08/martin-laird-award.html") for more information about the award, including the full criteria.

Please send your nominations to [email protected] before Sunday September 14th.

Nominations will be posted to the website (http://"http://2009lairdaward.blogspot.com/") as they are received.

Email me if you have any questions.


Regards,

Simon Talbot
AFDA National Universities Coordinator
Retrospective voting?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chris L on August 17, 2009, 08:02:31 PM
I thought the draw in Melbourne last year was fine. Keeping it simple with initial pools based on the number of teams, splitting into top and bottom pools for crossovers to determine seeding into the quarters/semis. Aiming for 9-11 games over the 5 days.

Based on my 5 minute wikipedia understanding of the Swiss system...I don't like it. Having to determine the draw after every single game with a complicated system that not everyone will understand seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Nobody will know where they are supposed to play, against whom or when without everyone trekking back to frisbee central and waiting for the poor volunteers to work it all out. Also, no matter how "bad" a predetermined draw is, at least everyone gets a good look at it in advance and can work out what they need to do to win.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on August 17, 2009, 10:22:03 PM
Yeah, it's easy enough for the large, experienced squads. The change is more accommodating to the mid-to-lower level teams who bring squads of 12 with about 20 games of experience between them.

The warmer weather also makes a difference. I remember the Friday games in 07 being more frisbee than ultimate.

QUT has 11 atm. not having a medical program really kills the retention rate. 3 returning wooden spooners this year.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 18, 2009, 01:52:33 AM
Just for the benefit of the Newcastle folk, the draw will most definitely NOT be Swiss format.


It will be a reclassification (ie: same as last year) format. Likely to be less games (9-10 for the week) than last year as we have limited field space this time around. Looking at maximum 3 games per day, the usual Wednesday arvo off and one game on Friday. Any complaints on that?


Also, does anyone know if the following teams are coming this year...
- Murdoch
- ECU
- Wollongong
- CSU
Haven't heard anything definitive from them for a while now.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Peley on August 18, 2009, 08:14:18 AM
im pretty sure murdoch are a no, and so are ecu.

but dont quote me, i dont really give a shit if either team are there or not


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 18, 2009, 08:32:41 AM
is still waiting for the lunches email... :(


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on August 18, 2009, 08:47:24 AM
pretty sure CSU are going...ask mark evans or craigie


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on August 18, 2009, 07:41:10 PM
I have a friend at 'Gong, and they are organising a team. In fact my sis might be playing on it. Tiger - you're in.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: luweekoh on August 19, 2009, 04:29:09 AM
A few other unis have posted their teams too. Flinders look like they're definitely losing Alec but other than that look pretty good. Monash minus OSh still looks respectable too. I hear that the Sydney uni team has been announced. Looks like they've dropped their "not selecting calan" policy for 2009

Just like UTS have dropped their "win the party" policy?  ;)


ahem EUG's cough


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: luweekoh on August 19, 2009, 04:59:17 AM
UTS is getting a bit too overhyped I think :P  
How does it feel? ;)

...I'm looking forward to there being no real 'favourites' and being able to play some quality, close matches and hitting the parties hard with our eastern buddies. And the best part is, everyone gets to smash Cumbo!


Oh come on Brett. Why must you SUUFA kids keep lying to yourselves? We all know come Uni Games you spend more time in ice-baths than on the dancefloor...

OH how in retrospect this statment is LAUGHABLE!!!

Sydney was at every party till late on the df, last team standing some nights - with photos to prove.

UTS? "Oh we're not drinking or dancing, but we'll come to the party just to say we were there..."


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Henry on August 19, 2009, 05:43:33 AM
The first two nights we were there til the party venue closed... Didn't see many if any suufa kids there those nights. It's only on the third night when you guys figured you had an easy semi against us to wake up to that you were there longer than us. Can't comment on the last night because I had to be back in sydney for work


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Big Tom on August 19, 2009, 09:40:53 AM
The first two nights we were there til the party venue closed... Didn't see many if any suufa kids there those nights. It's only on the third night when you guys figured you had an easy semi against us to wake up to that you were there longer than us.

First night i Grant UTS the win as u were there til the end.  It probably helped that your first game was at 1, but that's beside the point. However 2nd night and 3rd night UTS (mostly) turned up to the party but were not actively invloved. No dancing and very little drinking. On the 2nd night we have photographic evidence that UTS left before Suufa. And you left nice and early on the 3rd night, so you could be ready and raring to win. Oh and Henry is a smelly pirate hooker.

On a side note: are there any girls hwo post on this or is this just guys beating their chests.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: linus89 on August 19, 2009, 10:03:57 AM
ok well on the second night, "very little drinking", i seem to remember someone almost single handedly beating suufa in a boat race and then one on one with brett because you guys were so certain it was a tie.
Another thing on henry's point about the third night...it happened in melbourne as well... like ghosts you disappear home by 12 on every night of competition and at the last party staying out till late... winning the party isnt a one night thing guys, and it most certainly isnt a last night thing... Im not saying that UTS wins every party, but more often than not we finish on the podium.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Big Tom on August 19, 2009, 10:38:49 AM
ok well on the second night, "very little drinking", i seem to remember someone almost single handedly beating suufa in a boat race and then one on one with brett because you guys were so certain it was a tie.
Another thing on henry's point about the third night...it happened in melbourne as well... like ghosts you disappear home by 12 on every night of competition and at the last party staying out till late... winning the party isnt a one night thing guys, and it most certainly isnt a last night thing... Im not saying that UTS wins every party, but more often than not we finish on the podium.

Single handedly beat suufa. You beat the B squad, C squad at best. I've seen Birds out skull brett. And they can't even hold the glass. We all know Brettski can only strawpedo so we'll leave that where it is. Also I didn't say that Linus didn't drink, I said that UTS as a whole softed out, there will of course always be outliers.

Secondly I don't think UTS really partied. I saw very little dancing, whilst out girls wore themselves out fighting off the ravenous hordes of an EUGs dance floor. I have no idea about Melbourne coz i wasn't there, however i'm pretty sure that UTS were out the door at 12 on the second night, of which there is photographic evidence.

Also back to the first night we had to leave early coz Linus was dancing so crazy we didn't want him injuring our girls. That man can't handle his drink. "I haven't got a pulse!!!"  :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: The Brucemaster on August 19, 2009, 10:53:12 AM
You said it yourself Linus: "Single-handedly".

Where were your team-mates? That's right, they were sitting around a table doing nothing much at all. Whilst SUUFA were able to field a full boat race team, in addition to the dance floor team that had been going hard since about an hour or two before you arrived.

'Oh but we were drinking hard at Craigie's house' I hear you say. Well if that was the case, WHY WEREN'T YOU ALL AS LOOSE AS A VIOLATED MOOSE WHEN YOU GOT TO THE PARTY!?!?!

As for the dance floor, UTS put in a poor show. Sure, Linus was a stand-out player (Pete Liddicoat could learn from him... :P) but there was no real supporting cast. Whereas our boys and girls were busting moves from the moment we got there until the early hours of the morn and then backing up to play at 9 the next morning.

From now on, I propose that UTS stand for Ultimately Too Soft...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ashry on August 19, 2009, 11:40:31 AM
Out come the claws...

luwee, were you at the same EUG's as the rest of us??


Oh come on Brett. Why must you SUUFA kids keep lying to yourselves? We all know come Uni Games you spend more time in ice-baths than on the dancefloor...

OH how in retrospect this statment is LAUGHABLE!!!

Sydney was at every party till late on the df, last team standing some nights - with photos to prove.


Laughable? The fact that your calling that remark laughable is utterly hilarious! Lets revisit the first night to begin with..

Yes Sydney were there, as was pretty much everyone from every sport from every uni. After the live band finished, however, USyd were like a greyhound out of the traps, whilst UTS and CSU were left to carry the Ultimate Frisbee flag on the dancefloor UNTIL CLOSE!! and yes, we have photos to prove as well.

ok well on the second night, "very little drinking", i seem to remember someone almost single handedly beating suufa in a boat race and then one on one with brett because you guys were so certain it was a tie.

Firstly, we all saw it. We all know Linus beat Brett on the last glass, after absolutely demolishing Cam on the first leg.
Secondly, for Linus to BEAT YOU TWICE in a beer boat race is extremely significant, because we all know he very rarely, if ever, drinks beer. Still think we gave up the 'win the party' policy?

3rd and 4th nights I happily admit we were nowhere near the top of our game, but when you have people coughing up phlegm and bile and being so physically sick they were unable to play most of the next day, i think commonsense would prevail and you'd pull the reigns in a bit.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ashry on August 19, 2009, 11:42:53 AM
You said it yourself Linus: "Single-handedly".

Where were your team-mates? That's right, they were sitting around a table doing nothing much at all. Whilst SUUFA were able to field a full boat race team, in addition to the dance floor team that had been going hard since about an hour or two before you arrived.


From memory, linus drank you under the table on the first leg of that boat race, right Cam? 2 seconds quicker, don't you think?
Doesnt matter if you were able to field a full boat race team or not. A, we still beat you, twice. B, we did it with one less person. Thank you for proving our point Cam.


As for the dance floor, UTS put in a poor show. Sure, Linus was a stand-out player (Pete Liddicoat could learn from him... :P) but there was no real supporting cast. Whereas our boys and girls were busting moves from the moment we got there until the early hours of the morn and then backing up to play at 9 the next morning.


1st night. Live band stops playing about 12-12.30pm. 12.45pm: not a single SUUFA person left in the entire venue.
Practice what you preach champ.

PS From memory, the night Linus (and lets not forget Ant Melo in this. yeah, 3 guys getting beaten by a girl and a guy, especially linus, ouch, thats gotta hurt your ego) beat Luwee, Brett and yourself, and then Brett again, we were also up at 9am playing Newcastle, and we scored as many points as you did in the final.

PPS

You beat the B squad, C squad at best.


A, it was 2/3 of our F squad. Indi had gone missing, so Linus had to step up.
B, if it was your C squad where was the A Squad? We wouldve gladly taken on your best drinkers, and gladly beaten you. But you're A team was nowhere to be seen.
C, You certainly weren't at your best, I think you'd agree Cam.

From now on, I propose that UTS stand for Ultimately Too Soft...

From now on, I propose Cam gets banned from posting on Uni Games Party-related matters, at least until you work out which story you're going to use to explain your shortcomings.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ashry on August 19, 2009, 11:45:06 AM

Also I didn't say that Linus didn't drink, I said that UTS as a whole softed out, there will of course always be outliers.


If you added 'the last two nights' to 'UTS as a whole softed out', I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. However, for both of the first two nights, we were still at the venue long after you were gone.


Secondly I don't think UTS really partied. I saw very little dancing, whilst out girls wore themselves out fighting off the ravenous hordes of an EUGs dance floor.



Again, 1st night, we were there dancing long after you were asleep. 2nd night, we were too busy drinking. Also, unless if you haven't guessed, there aren't a lot of fans of dance/house music on our team, certainly not as much as there are on the USyd team.


I have no idea about Melbourne coz i wasn't there, however i'm pretty sure that UTS were out the door at 12 on the second night, of which there is photographic evidence.


Are you talking about EUG's this year, or AUG's last year. Because at EUG's we were at the Oxford til it closed on the second night. On the third night we went home at 12 because Ev had self-diagnosed himself with swine flu he was that sick, and because none of us were really in the partying mood.

Regardless, I think we'd all agree that the true party champions were CSU. Not only did they manage to bring home the bronze, but they did so after going to every party every night, drinking at every party every night, whilst simultaneously dealing with what has now become known as the 'Rankin Palace Plague'.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2009, 06:27:36 PM
haha, you all make me laugh


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 19, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Just like UTS have dropped their "win the party" policy?  ;)
They had one?

On a side note: are there any girls hwo post on this or is this just guys beating their chests.
There are no girls on the internet. I thought this was common knowledge.


USyd and UTS all talk a big party game, but I've never seen either of them stand toe to toe with anyone from the West or South. Closest I've seen was the Sydney IV in 2006 when some UTS folk tried to run with B-Town but got laughed out of the building shortly before midnight.

UWA are still the team to watch. Flinders will put on a good show, as will the AU/USA team. Ballarat will play dirty like they always do. Monash will be rather tepid until Thursday night. Melbourne and Deakin will be pathetic as usual.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on August 19, 2009, 09:35:08 PM
There are one or two 'girls' on this forum, but I think they're actually Moroney on his other computer, the one where the caps lock key works.

You guys are being incredibly silly though. Fair enough SUUFA are continuing their 'be obnoxious, wonder why people hate us' course, but I expected more from UTS.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on August 20, 2009, 12:12:45 AM
your all just soft. You don't win the party until you wake up next the fat chick!!!! or end up in prision (hey wetnose)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on August 20, 2009, 12:35:29 AM
WOODLEY!!!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 20, 2009, 02:39:40 AM
Sooooooooooooooo......................

I guess I can now announce that there will be a "form" of Frisbee Lunch at AUG's09!
Captains, stand by your emails over the next few weeks for emails and information (also get up vego/allergy info for your players on AFDA)

BTW - the makeup of the lunches is at the discretion of the lunch construction manager and competition manager... So be nice!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Twig on August 20, 2009, 02:55:13 AM

UWA are still the team to watch. Flinders will put on a good show, as will the AU/USA team. Ballarat will play dirty like they always do. Monash will be rather tepid until Thursday night. Melbourne and Deakin will be pathetic as usual.

Are you talking about playing or drinking Simmo?  I wouldnt be talking up UWA's playing ability just yet but we do have some freshers who definitely like to party... we are also attempting to reclaim the mantle we held a few years ago, those who were around will know what im talking about


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 20, 2009, 03:26:04 AM
Of course I mean party.

And I do know what you're talking about and look forward to it.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: evdogs on August 20, 2009, 07:45:07 AM
You guys are being incredibly silly though. Fair enough SUUFA are continuing their 'be obnoxious, wonder why people hate us' course, but I expected more from UTS.

Amen to that.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on August 20, 2009, 09:03:39 PM
bozza; i've modified the AFDA rego page to have a column asking for vegos, vegans and food allergies. hope that's ok.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on August 21, 2009, 12:19:17 AM
bozza; i've modified the AFDA rego page to have a column asking for vegos, vegans and food allergies. hope that's ok.
*slaps forehead* I knew I was forgetting something...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on August 21, 2009, 04:27:17 AM
are there any girls hwo post on this or is this just guys beating their chests.

Raaarrgh My team better than yours! My team smash! My Team have more testosterone and balls than your team! (no seriously... when if we finally register it we have lots of guys)
Rarrrgh My team is best! Raarrrgh!
Raaarrrrgh My team eat your team and poop you out...

that is all


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Frank on August 21, 2009, 06:51:09 AM
... we are also attempting to reclaim the mantle we held a few years ago, those who were around will know what im talking about

So are you saying you have lots and lots of attractive females on your team?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Brettski on August 21, 2009, 09:00:38 AM
Wow. That escalated quickly.

I'm going to have to say that all of that party smack talk was a bit pointless - blowing out someone elses candle doesn't make yours shine any brighter. At least that's what my mum would say.

Since when did the party become all about competition? The whole point of it is that we have enough competition during the day, let's not have it carry over into the night...

And Tiger, I still don't understand the whole obnoxious label? I'm seeing all the unis talk themselves up a bit.

Sydney Uni trains hard, plays hard and parties hard. Anyone who wants to jump on board and enjoy AUGs as much as we plan to, then by all means join us.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: tlindsaybrown on August 21, 2009, 10:33:20 AM
So,
my Eugs medal is gold. What colour's yours?
In fact all my unigames medals are gold. Except for the silver ones, and I've never lost to Sydney uni or any of you try-hard chumps.

ps
sorry dave,
 you reckon that an extra half a team will beat chris-boy now that he has pecs,
Do I hear an Amen!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on August 23, 2009, 09:44:20 PM

UWA are still the team to watch. Flinders will put on a good show, as will the AU/USA team. Ballarat will play dirty like they always do. Monash will be rather tepid until Thursday night. Melbourne and Deakin will be pathetic as usual.

Are you talking about playing or drinking Simmo?  I wouldnt be talking up UWA's playing ability just yet but we do have some freshers who definitely like to party... we are also attempting to reclaim the mantle we held a few years ago, those who were around will know what im talking about

Thats true, Twig is looking real pretty this year.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on August 24, 2009, 02:43:37 AM
Right. Well. Things seem to be heating up on the AUG scene. So I’ll do my best to throw fuel on the fire by giving a heartfelt and open southern uni perspective. Let’s start the rundown by picking a uni at random….. SYDNEY UNI!

USyd: Firstly let me say how happy I am that everyone is getting on board the “Sydney Uni are an arrogant and boring team” bandwagon. It’s good to see. The only thing these guys talk up more than their playing ability is their partying ability. Interestingly enough, one of their players had the foresight to hear the AUG drums beating not far off in the distance and waved his “lets not blow each others candles out” white flag, so as not to have to back up their claims with action. However on the field they will be a team to watch, with some interesting names returning, among them Max “Owen Shepherd who? Give me my green and gold medal” Halden, Mikey “Predator” Tarn and Petey “Princess” Liddicoat. Their girls can run too. A lot. I’m sure they will be keen to avenge last years dismal final performance which more resembled a footrace between Usain Bolt and Susan Boyle than a game of ultimate. These guys would have to be considered as contenders and if they make the final I am expecting a solid heckling performance from the crowd. I know I will not rest until I’ve been ejected by AUS for heckling, regardless of whether or not I’m playing.

UTS: When you’re led by Suj “Good Kid” Vijeyakumaar (yeah I copy/pasted his name from AFDA so what), how can you expect anything less than total success?! These guys have shown promise through the past few campaigns, but aren’t in the big leagues yet. If they continue with the development like they have over the past two years I wouldn’t be surprised to see them challenging the top teams. This of course is based on the assumption Suj sticks around. If not they’re done. The team list has a couple of names that may be difficult to commentate on after a couple of shots, but it will be fun seeing Pissy try.

Flinders: The reigning SUG and AUG champions have a decent shot at making it two in a row. I don’t believe they will as the rest of the field has matured a little bit. It will be interesting to see how they go a girl down after Emma Kiel gets put out of commission from being an insatiable trashbag boozehound before the first game. Sean Lace will no doubt be running around like a rabid little rat, as if he has something to prove to the world, sporting a game face that reminds me of Kobe’s game 6 game face (http://thesportsbrareports.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kobes-game-face.jpg?w=300&h=226). Brett “Sweet As” Middleton comes in, replacing Alec Deslandes who, shock horror, graduated (that’s right kids, uni is supposed to be temporary). Is the steady flow of Adelaide’s deep receivers coincidence? I think not. Word on the street is that Alec and Brett agreed to a Malthouse/Buckley style succession plan as devised by Joel “Eddie Maguire” Pillar. That connection should be worth a medal or two.

UQ: The Hawthorn FC of the AUS scene. After registering such a successful ’07 campaign, this mob couldn’t even muster up a single team to compete in ’08. As such, it is hard to respect this team, especially given the recent comments of a certain player (pipe, I dare you)! Having said that, on home soil you have to give these guys the benefit of the doubt that they’re a top 8 team. I’m not sure why they’ve listed their Physio, Piers “good for two games before I get injured” Truter on their playing list, maybe to boost numbers, but they have a couple of decent names. They should be well honed on Defence, with Alastair Don sure to give them plenty of chances to play it. Nevertheless, looking strong.

BUUF: Ah Ballarat. Out for Justice. Whilst many believe this teams’ slogan should be “Out for Draft Picks”, I’m not ready to write them off just yet. Their best seven include Dan Rule, Lachlan McDonald, Rockbeat and Jake Angelovich, all players you have to respect. They key for this team is endurance, as I’m not sure their top tier players can run out a tourney on their own bat. Their girls may be a risk too as the last game I saw, Drule threw to one of the girls, who actively ran away from the Frisbee. Watch out for the re-re-return of Simon “Mal Michael” Talbot, who has announced his retirement from competitive ultimate more times than he’s been carted off to hospital with a Saline IV stuck in his arm.

UWA: Remember Squeak “Little Bitch” Scholari from Baseketball? That’s UWA. Fun to have around but hard to take seriously, UWA have a couple of good kids that will ensure the party keeps kicking (even though I’m sure USyd will have that covered…………………..HAAHAHHA). If you play them, don’t try to beat them, just wait for them to beat themselves. Ouch. Nah they’re a bunch of good kids. Here’s hoping they can muster up a quality bunch of ladies akin to Adelaide (AUG06?). What a bunch of hotties.

Griffith: Captained by Cupcake? Don’t know, don’t care.

Newcastle: Chris Lavis is kicking goals with this team, with Ellie, Chilly and Liz Dodd providing competent backing. They weren’t contenders last year, regardless of what they thought, but I think they learned a lot from last year and will probably sit within the top eight this year. Again depth may be an issue, however if Chrisboy show’s as much dedication to his on-field performances as he does his Ulti-Talking, these guys could be in for a medal. I hope to see more from them on the dancefloor though. And less piping from Ellie Sparke.

Monash: Well anything I say here won’t be taken seriously, (not that anything I’ve said will be hopefully!) but not many people could say these kids aren’t contenders. Whilst I plan to keep a couple of things on the down low, the list speaks for itself. Worlds players, NUFL players, nationals players. The team has depth, question is, does it have a superstar? Does it need one? The long game will be interesting with Barr, Josh Cukierman and Chris Folkes taking shots at Steve Thomas, Cleetus, Michelle Rogers and Lucy Ross. Grace Gard is also one to watch out for, as she’s very hard to play D against, however on the Frisbee field she’s fine.

AU: Don’t know much about this team, but a couple of things I do know are: BJ is a good kid, he’ll keep them together, Louisa Battista is the youngest looking little alco I know, and Karen Palmer is HOT! That is all.

Wait, She’s so, so hot.

Macquarie: Playing their cards close to their chest on the AFDA site, this once powerhouse team has gone the way of pokemon and porn sites that you have to pay for, and fallen by the wayside. And, much the same as the first two, nobody seemed to care. I hope they put in a solid show. Who knows, the Dowles may enrol for their 4th post-grad course and revive the once mighty club.

QUT: Is this the club Jangles is Coaching? Farkn Hell.

ANU: Quite a fresh looking team on the afda list. Out with the old of Tom Walcott and Watson, and in with what has been dubbed the biggest signing coup since Karmichael Hunt’s defection to AFL. Andrew Jackson is not a household ultimate name yet, however those who saw him play for Fyshwick in the AUC09 championships sat up and took notice of this kid, who looks fresh out of a Beastie Boys music video. Rumour has it that before he was signed to ANU he was Bear Grylls’ stunt double. True Story. Usain Bolt should consider himself lucky this guy didn’t take up running. A couple of steady hands, including Andrew Sutton, will mean these guys will have a good tourney. They probably won’t be top eight, but they won’t get pumped by any teams.

UWS: Refer to Griffith

UNSW: The fresh nature of this team is once again testament to the theory that the centre of ultimate in the uni scene has moved from the east to the south. This team has one name I recognise in Alex Allen, and probably a couple of others I’d know if I saw, however I’m unsure these guys will bother the score keepers. Alternatively, these names could be all American imports and completely romp the tournament. Although I doubt it. One thing I am interested in though is the name Silin Garfield. Silin shares the same last name as Abra and Shua Garfield. Also shares the fact she has a weird first name. I wonder if they’re related.

Mutation (Dumb name for Melbourne Uni): OH HOW ART THE MIGHTY FALLEN!! I must admit I’ve been looking forward to getting to this point in the rundown. For those not familiar with the southern university scene, Melbourne University were the benchmark for uni ultimate. Now not so much. Look, these guys are still a decent team. I just had to get that out because it’s so satisfying. It seems Barramundy Chris Freise has taken a shining to his former teammate Al Don’s penchant for “huck for territory” ultimate and will be getting his team fit through lots of D. Watch for Jude Mitchell and new boy toy Tim Horden playing Flinders’ Black Mamba….. Should be fireworks!! Firetail Michelle Phillips apparently loves it if you tell her she’s cheating to win. Try it.

Vic Wildcats (NZ): Word on the street is that this team is big on beer bongs, using a bukett and a huuse bru. Nobody knows much about this team so they could be quite deceptiivve. Nah look all jokes aside the fact that these guys are making the trip just goes to show this mob aren’t exactly sheepish.

Vic Uni: First time caller. We’ve all been there. Points for trying. My pick for Spirit.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on August 24, 2009, 03:40:44 AM
Is nice, I like!

I don't know if you were picking out an entire top 8, but I only saw a couple teams mentioned for the top 8. Still leaving some leeway to pick your top 8 closer to the day?

And Matt Dowle actually *is* still doing his PhD for Macquarie in Canberra, so he doesn't even need to reenroll :P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rachelg on August 24, 2009, 06:24:08 AM
UNSW: ...One thing I am interested in though is the name Silin Garfield. Silin shares the same last name as Abra and Shua Garfield. Also shares the fact she has a weird first name. I wonder if they’re related.
She's their sister. She got an awesome lay out block against us at the IV yesterday.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: kiely on August 24, 2009, 06:54:45 AM

. It will be interesting to see how they go a girl down after Emma Kiel gets put out of commission from being an insatiable trashbag boozehound before the first game.



thanks moroney...ill give you credit for that but might take one for the team this year and not be an insatiable trashbag boozegound..
gold medal is on the cards


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on August 24, 2009, 09:13:42 AM
Watch out for the re-re-return of Simon “Mal Michael” Talbot, who has announced his retirement from competitive ultimate more times than he’s been carted off to hospital with a Saline IV stuck in his arm.
Hey. I've only retired twice.


Serious note - 23 teams. Get amongst it.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rodes on August 24, 2009, 10:11:42 AM
Serious note - 23 teams. Get amongst it.

So two divisions?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Shaunie81 on August 24, 2009, 10:28:58 AM

Quote
thanks moroney...ill give you credit for that but might take one for the team this year and not be an insatiable trashbag boozegound..
gold medal is on the cards

Can't see it happening =P


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on August 24, 2009, 11:04:49 AM

USyd: Firstly let me say how happy I am that everyone is getting on board the “Sydney Uni are an arrogant and boring team” bandwagon. It’s good to see. The only thing these guys talk up more than their playing ability is their partying ability.

Flinders: Sean Lace will no doubt be running around like a rabid little rat, as if he has something to prove to the world, sporting a game face that reminds me of Kobe’s game 6 game face (http://thesportsbrareports.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kobes-game-face.jpg?w=300&h=226).

BUUF: Watch out for the re-re-return of Simon “Mal Michael” Talbot, who has announced his retirement from competitive ultimate more times than he’s been carted off to hospital with a Saline IV stuck in his arm.

UWA: Remember Squeak “Little Bitch” Scholari from Baseketball? That’s UWA.

Griffith: Captained by Cupcake? Don’t know, don’t care.

Newcastle: And less piping from Ellie Sparke.


Hell Moz, I nearly pissed myself laughing when I read these lines. Well played sir!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on August 26, 2009, 08:24:08 PM
Oh, incidentally, as I'm not captain of the AFDA bit and can't put the team up on the rego, here is what Macquarie looks like this year.

Girls:

Megan Gamble
Hayley McFetridge
Genieve McDermot
Jesslyn Ho
Claire Polosak
Nerine Moodley

Boys:

Tiger Webb
Rory Connell
Yoann Greau
Nathan Wong
Nick Dousett
Alfred "Mad Dog" Poon
Scott Krause, Jr
Nathan Linforth
Alistair See
Anthony Richard
Ian Muir


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thefole on August 26, 2009, 10:57:58 PM
Hell Moz, I nearly pissed myself laughing when I read these lines. Well played sir!

i think i just did piss myself laughing.

which is a real shame cos i was reading it at uni...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: luweekoh on August 26, 2009, 10:59:56 PM
You guys are being incredibly silly though. Fair enough SUUFA are continuing their 'be obnoxious, wonder why people hate us' course, but I expected more from UTS.

Amen to that.

oh come on guys, other say a lot more worse and dont get one rebuttal post.  what we get from a bit of jokes are posts from many unis, with a point by point disection.

if i have offended anyone, im sorry.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Big Tom on August 26, 2009, 11:37:57 PM
oh come on guys, other say a lot more worse and dont get one rebuttal post.  what we get from a bit of jokes are posts from many unis, with a point by point disection.

if i have offended anyone, im sorry.

I was just posting earlier to start the small flame war with Linus coz i love those responses that are generated when anyone from SUUFA says anything. Also judging by the stream of invective that is produced I wonder if they prefer salt or vinegar for that chip on their shoulders.

Just a thought.

Also i'm highly offended Luwee. Don't appologise. Be obnoxious like everyone assumes. It can't hurt.

Flame on dear friends.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tanty on August 27, 2009, 06:04:26 AM
Flame on dear friends.

Yo team is so ugly they get paid to keep their clothes on in strip clubs

Yo team is so fat that when it sat on the beach Greenpeace kept trying to throw it back in

Yo team is so short you can see your feet in the drivers license photo

Yo team is so dirty you have to creep up on the bathwater

Yo team is so flat its jealous of the wall

That better Tom?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Big Tom on September 01, 2009, 10:59:37 PM
You killed it tanty. I think it was the smell.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on September 09, 2009, 11:50:35 PM
How are everyone’s AUG preparations coming along? <Insert generic whinge about getting reamed by last minute flight costs here>

My smack talking took a hit today, I guess I’ll get in now before everyone finds out later and smashes me. Our AUG squad suffered a setback, with Cleetus sidelined due to a suspected torn ACL. He’s getting scans today but he seemed to be in a fair bit of pain after training. One of the chicks near him reckoned she heard a “pop” which I can’t guess would be a good thing! This is a double blow as we’ll have to rely more on Steve Thomas, who we were planning to ease back in to games after his shoulder injury, so he may be underdone too. More to come.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JMc on September 10, 2009, 02:46:40 AM
Craaaaap... Sorry to hear that, dude. Sucks on both a personal level for him, and a team level for you guys :-(  Keep us updated, yeah?

In reply to how our preparations are coming along, we've had a few injury niggles of late, but at the moment everyone seems to be coming good. We've got a couple who are still only 75%, but they should both resolve in the next week or two (fingers crossed), and even "physio" Truter is moving around alright.

Looking forward to seeing everyone on the sunny Gold Coast...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Twig on September 10, 2009, 11:38:36 AM
Our preparations are coming on really well, we have a couple of big weekends with tournaments before we head over to the GC.  Had a scare at league last night with one of our players also going down with a knee but he thinks he will bounce back.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Eels 88 on September 12, 2009, 04:29:35 AM
How are everyone’s AUG preparations coming along? <Insert generic whinge about getting reamed by last minute flight costs here>

My smack talking took a hit today, I guess I’ll get in now before everyone finds out later and smashes me. Our AUG squad suffered a setback, with Cleetus sidelined due to a suspected torn ACL. He’s getting scans today but he seemed to be in a fair bit of pain after training. One of the chicks near him reckoned she heard a “pop” which I can’t guess would be a good thing! This is a double blow as we’ll have to rely more on Steve Thomas, who we were planning to ease back in to games after his shoulder injury, so he may be underdone too. More to come.


Dude thats balls. When will Clete find out about his knee? I had my recon on Monday and its scrotom. Did have a cute nurse help me shower but.

UWA is coming along nicely, however unfortunately several players including P Eley, K Thorn and B Heim have contracted a severe case of homosexuality. They are expected to make a recovery over time, however they may still be contagious during AUG. Apart from that, UWA looks strong and is looking to medal.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on September 13, 2009, 09:39:30 PM
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Dude thats balls. When will Clete find out about his knee? I had my recon on Monday and its scrotom. Did have a cute nurse help me shower but.

Well in the AFL Collingwood's Scott Pendlebury broke a bone in his leg last week and is looking to run out in the Preliminary final, so I guess anything is possible. We'll just have to wait and see.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Frank on September 14, 2009, 10:04:26 AM
An accelerated Nick Malceski type procedure?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Chook on September 14, 2009, 10:21:37 AM
Or do a Lenny Hayes

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Saints-lose-Hayes-for-AFL-season/2006/05/29/1148754931810.html (http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Saints-lose-Hayes-for-AFL-season/2006/05/29/1148754931810.html)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: el_joshie on September 15, 2009, 02:45:14 AM
hopefully a pendelbury type recovery in time for the big prelim franky.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Tiger on September 19, 2009, 02:34:18 AM
Any word on Cleetus's knee? I hope that guy is okay...


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: el_joshie on September 19, 2009, 09:10:08 AM
well the draw is out and I reckon so far, it is flawed like all good fixtures. As im sure there will be numerous revisions, I may as well put in my two cents:

There were many complaints about the 2-pool system in 2007. Whilst this is a different style of draw, with only 6 teams in each, there still seems to be a hard pool and an easy pool based on the current seedings that could screw some teams over like it did in 07.

That said, the seedings are whack. Im not sure what impact SUG and EUG (and whatever other UGs they had) had on seedings but they are all wrong. Monash came second at SUG yet are placed behind Melbourne and everyone knows that Monash's team slams Melbourne on paper at the moment. UQ's team on paper should also see them ranked higher than 12th.

Im sure mozza will have a good crack anyhoo


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on September 20, 2009, 03:23:11 AM
AUS did the seedings. Based purely on last year's results.

And yeah, they do suck.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: matt.h on September 23, 2009, 06:52:56 AM
Official AUG assigned party venues for Ultimate

Monday: Ruby Tramp (w/ Badminton)
Tuesday: CDs (w/ Athletics)
Wednesday: Melbas (w/ Beach Volleyball & Badminton)
Thursday: The Bedroom (w/ Tennis & Basketball)

Anyone actually going to follow these AUG assigned venues?

http://www.unigames.com.au/_uploads/res/1_2865.pdf (http://www.unigames.com.au/_uploads/res/1_2865.pdf)


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: simmo on September 23, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
Shit, that reminds me I better book somewhere for the Wed night party.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: Jangles on September 23, 2009, 11:53:39 PM
Craaaaap... Sorry to hear that, dude. Sucks on both a personal level for him, and a team level for you guys :-(  Keep us updated, yeah?

In reply to how our preparations are coming along, we've had a few injury niggles of late, but at the moment everyone seems to be coming good. We've got a couple who are still only 75%, but they should both resolve in the next week or two (fingers crossed), and even "physio" Truter is moving around alright.

Looking forward to seeing everyone on the sunny Gold Coast...
We all know piers will be on the sideline by game 2!!!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: thebozzman on September 24, 2009, 12:50:49 AM
And just another reminder that all teams will need to provide their own lunch basket/box for the week, as well as chopping board and knife.

Also, if you are a twitterer you can do a search for AUG Ultimate posts by searching for #augulti, I've gone and got my own twitter account to give you the comp managers perspective, twitter.com/bozzmania.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: moroney on September 24, 2009, 02:11:17 AM
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Wednesday: Melbas (w/ Beach Volleyball & Badminton)

FUCK YES GET US WITH THE BEACH VOLLEYBALL GIRLS!! OR THE VOLEYBALL/NETBALL GIRLS!! I'VE GOT A ROOKIE I NEED TO LIVE VICARIOUSLY THROUGH FOR THE WEEK AND HE NEEDS TO GET SOME FOR THE BOTH OF US. AND WHEN I SAY VICARIOUSLY I MEAN WHILST-IM-IN-THE-SAME-ROOM VICARIOUSLY....


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: ashry on September 24, 2009, 08:31:52 PM
Monday: Ruby Tramp (w/ Badminton)
Wednesday: Melbas (w/ Beach Volleyball & Badminton)

Nah man, the female badminton players are where its at!! They go wild for cocks!!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: SammyO on September 24, 2009, 09:11:18 PM
Tuesday: CDs (w/ Athletics)
http://www.unigames.com.au/_uploads/res/1_2865.pdf (http://www.unigames.com.au/_uploads/res/1_2865.pdf)

Athletics girls. Win!
And so far it seems only guys are concerned by this. Go team male!


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on October 02, 2009, 08:56:45 PM
OK, I've seen all the results but what about the green and gold team?

Who got on?


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: rachelg on October 02, 2009, 09:12:56 PM
I wasn't there when they announced it but this is what I got told (also similar to what is on the AUS website http://www.unigames.com.au/_uploads/res/1_3034.pdf though that list has a lot of typos, a couple of these people missing plus Camby included so wouldn't trust it completely!)

Nikki Cotton USYD
Sarah Crossie USYD
Megan Gamble MQU
Rachel Grindlay UTS
Sarah Levin UQ
Lucy Ross MON
Tegan Sneddon NCLE
Ellie Sparke NCLE

Jake Angelovich UBAL
Sebastian Barr MON
Christopher Friese MELB
Chris Hill NCLE
Andrew Jackson ANU
Brett Middleton FU
John McNaughton UQ
Joel Pillar FU
Ewan Wymer USYD
Tiger Webb MQU


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: littletom on October 03, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
I like how the expanded team size has given the G&G selectors a greater opportunity to recognise players who played well over the week.


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: JdR on October 04, 2009, 09:23:30 PM
... or over the weak


Title: Re: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2009, 02:37:19 AM
do you mean anything by that JDR or are you just pleased with the pun that it produces?


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