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1  General / Ulti Strategy / Re: ho stack vs a spread on: May 14, 2008, 05:21:37 PM
Many use ho stack and spread interchangeably. To me, a ho stack is a horizontal stack that is configured as a 3-4, 3-1-3 (H stack), or 4-3. A spread offense is generally something like an L stack, or a 3-4 that looks more like a "U". 

X          X        X         X

 X              X              X


      X                    X

X          X        X         X

X               X             X


X               X              X

               H stack

X                                  X
X                                  X

       X         X          X   



X               X            X
           L stack



 X             X            X
             T Stack

2  Regional / Australasia / Re: NUFL08 on: May 14, 2008, 10:23:36 AM
Reminds me of one of my favorite mixed ulti cheers.

"We put the Cunt in Country"!
3  General / Ulti Development / Re: Ultimate Frisbee on Olimpic Games in 2012 on: April 14, 2008, 04:35:04 PM
Not if everyone that plays at olympic level takes a refereeing course?

Maybe people at high level should have to have a course to test knowledge of rules etc...

Not to thread hijack but to me that should be a prerequisite of every player in a UPA sectional, regional or national game.

Back to the topic at hand, I am an eternal optimist but I was just brining a little gravity to the situation. I am happy that you (SergioPL) is putting together and encouraging the petition.

4  General / Ulti Development / Re: Ultimate Frisbee on Olimpic Games in 2012 on: April 07, 2008, 03:51:42 PM
Unfortunately it is not that easy. A sport has to first become a demonstration event before becoming an Olympic event. There is also a cap on the number of sports and events as well as the number of athletes. Baseball and Softball are being discontinued and they are very popular sports. I do not want to be negative but it might take a bit more time than 2012.


5  General / Ulti Talk / Re: Advice on ankle braces on: March 23, 2008, 03:42:10 PM
Advice: Go to a physical therapist.
Apparently this is a reoccurring injury and you have not had proper rehab in order to strengthen your ankles. Doing the right/difficult thing now (setting out for a week or two) will provide better benefit than the quick/satisfying thing (playing now).

This can also become an opportunity that provides you with some much needed experience in stat tracking for the team or work on your sideline game (noticing match-ups, keeping score, being another set of eyes for the zone d). This might also be a good opportunity to work on your throws or mentor some new players.

It sucks but you'll be better for your team by being 100% near the end of the season than 75% all year due to your ankle.

6  Regional / Australasia / Re: Share some spirit games on: March 17, 2008, 01:40:29 PM
Some of the spirit games we have played include (but not limited to)

Frisbee pong
The beer game (you drink you and you win....another beer)
Slip 'n slide layouts

Ultimate based spirit games:
pterodactyl or T-rex arms
Beer points (beverage in hand)
upside down points (hammers and scoobers only)
Shorts up (don't know what it is called but you pull your shorts up to your shoulders and have your arms under your shorts)

Hmmm it appears that most of them involve drinking. Go figure.

7  General / Ulti Strategy / New Ultimate Book - Essential Ultimate on: February 24, 2008, 04:43:09 PM

I picked up this Essential Ultimate by Tiina Booth and Michael Baccarini from Amazon and it is great. A ton of drills and instruction on the mechanics of skills. Definitely worth the money.

8  General / Ulti Strategy / Re: Disc Maintenance on: February 24, 2008, 04:38:14 PM
Here was a sure-fire way to reform discs to their original shape:

Put the disc on a flat surface such as the back shelf in your car on a warm day. For rough edges on the disc, I use a fine grain sandpaper to get the burrs out. I also do this for new discs to ensure that there are no flaws or errand plastic shavings.

I have not tried the dishwasher or the microwave but I will try this on an old disc first.

9  General / Ulti Strategy / Re: ho stack defense on: February 11, 2008, 02:34:39 PM

              D   D
C     C     C    C


 HD   DH      H

Its definitely not perfect, but the whole point of the horizontal stack is that there is no defense that is.

Something to watch for with this type of D is the wide swing to the poached handler and quick pass up the sideline. If you are getting burned by the 3-4 or 4-2 consistently, choose zone so the offense is unable to dictate the terms. If you cannot tell by now, I favor zone coverage to man. I like to have man coverage keep the offense guessing which type of D you're going to playing next.

10  General / Ulti Strategy / Re: Offence against a clam on: February 11, 2008, 02:19:48 PM
Train a couple people to throw hammers, then just break the cup over the top to a wide open man on the side.  Move upfield swiftly, dump back to a handle and repeat hammer.

You took the words straight from my keyboard!

After a few hammers to one side, beware of the defense baiting you. Switch it up with low arching forehand blades to the other side of the field when the hammer stop favors your hammer side.

If a 3-4 or 4-3 "O" is being bracketed (kind of a clam) make plays that overload two cutters in the same lane but staggered so you can throw to the second cutter (most likely to be open) by throwing to space.

11  General / Ulti Strategy / Re: indoor, iron man tournament, helpful plays or tactics. on: February 11, 2008, 02:10:59 PM
A few helpful hints:

Time management will be to your advantage when playing. Find out what the max time is between points and milk it to the second if your team is tired. If the other team is tired, raise your hand to pull as soon as you get to the line.

When you guys are tired, allowing a few seconds to drop off of the stall count before you worry about throwing if something isn't open immediately after the catch.

Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate !

Use many different types of zone to throw the offense off while only running a few people hard at a time. A 5 man zone sounds odd but can be effective. Go between clam, 2-2-1 zone and a 1-3-1 zone when man coverage isn't working.

Rotate positions frequently.

Punting is a good option when nothing is happening and you're high in the stall count.

Hope this helps! I'm sure that there are plenty of other options but I'm not going to type all day.

12  General / Ulti Strategy / Re: Layout Ultimate 2006 - Video Game on: February 11, 2008, 01:20:19 PM
I have to say that I really did not like the game. I think that I was having too much trouble with controlling two players at once. I also was really hoping that there was 7v7 and that it would be more like playing ultimate. Maybe my expectations were just a little too high.

13  General / Ulti Talk / Re: favorite ulti clothing on: February 11, 2008, 10:36:13 AM
One thing I will mention is on the topic of underwear.  I bought some Nike sport underwear, the type that is tight fitting with a silky feel as well.  Lycra like.  Similar to bicycle shorts.  BZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!  Don't like em at all.  All they do is feel itchy and cumbersome.  They ride up your legs and I find myself constantly pulling them down.  I think I'll stick to the cotton boxer-brief style. 

Compression shorts are a great for keeping your muscles warm between points and between games as well as keeping any kind of chaffing at bay. I have even used them in the summer in Baghdad during my time in the Army. I had a few pairs of Nike and a few pairs of Under Armor and both performed wonderfully. Nike just happen to be a few $$$'s cheaper.

As far as being uncomfortable because they ride up, that is what they're supposed to do. As for being bulky, maybe you didn't have a pair that were the correct size. "A good pair of compression shorts should form a noticeable gap between the thighs and groin area. Look for a higher percentage blend of Lycra if more support is needed. Some compression shorts also provide odor protection, so consult the label for a complete list of benefits."

I can understand that they might not be for everyone, but they have been a part of my ultimate wardrobe since I began playing in the 90's. Seppo, maybe you should give them one more chance and maybe try a different brand.

14  General / Ulti Talk / Re: favorite ulti clothing on: February 03, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
I like Patagonia shirts but being a cheapskate, I normally go for some dryfit t shirts that I picked up on sale at Dick's for $5. Nike compression shorts are good for under your shorts and I've heard great things about five ultimate shorts.

For cleats I love the fit of my Under Armor football cleats but the top plate has already started to separate from the shoe after only the first year of use. I stick with the removable cleats so I can adjust for solid or muddy fields.

15  General / Ulti Talk / Re: Pool Workouts on: February 03, 2008, 09:14:44 PM
I would have to say that pool workouts will do a lot to help in your recovery. Check with your physical therapist first, but I love doing speed and agility drills in the pool. Dynamic stretching in the pool also helps once you get some of the stiffness worked out.

If you're looking for something outside of the pool, doing some yoga will help restore some of the balance and flexibility that you have lost from being in the cast. Ask for some of the blocks or straps in order to assist you with getting into the positions so you do not risk further damage. But you must ask your doctor or physical therapist before you do any exercises so you do not hamper your recovery through overuse.

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