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« on: December 23, 2009, 10:19:22 AM »

Hey Guys,

I have trouble understanding couple of things I found about offense. Here it is:

ABOUT 4 Person Play

1. catch to hitch to man to buddy
2. hitch calls the side that the play will run; stack shifts to other side and stays SHALLOW
3. team stays alert, is ready for junk, zone or any reason to run a breakdown play

ABOUT regenerative offense

1. offense regenerates with man cutting for the buddy (“RUN IT”)
2. play may be reversed
(“REVERSE IT”)
3. fills provide two more options (“RUN FILLS” and “REVERSE FILLS”)

Please could someone explain it to me?

Thanks in advance!!

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 11:23:46 AM »

I guess I dont understand where you're coming from with these details.
Is there a link to something or where are you coming up with "hitch", "buddy" "man" thing

I would need more info. to help you out, sorry
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 11:45:29 AM »

there is only it... It's an offense cheat sheet I downloaded from the site:

http://www.cogandrew.com/?s=cheat+sheet&searchsubmit=Search and download offense
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2009, 08:36:16 PM »

These are all pretty old-school terms, Jacob. I believe DoG used these in the 90s to describe their offence (whether they were the first or not, I don't know).

The 4 person play is also known as the New York Standard, as I understand NYNY used to run it to great effect.
"Catch" = the player catching the pull.
"Hitch" = the first pass receiver, usually a centering pass to a strong handler.
"Man" = The Man (a designated primary cutter).
"Buddy" = The Man's Buddy (designated player who cuts for continuation from The Man).
Basically, the idea is that you get the disc to a strong thrower in the middle of the field, with the stack short and wide out of the way, which gives two isolated cutters a heap of space to work in.

The regenerative offence uses the same terms (man and buddy), plus the idea of a fill. A fill is a secondary cutting option - they fill in if the designated cutter doesn't get free or is not in position to cut.

Hope that's useful.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2009, 06:49:29 PM »

We used to call plays this way sometimes on my college team, particularly when we were at easy tournaments trying to work in rookies so they could sort of watch the cuts and see the timing and allow them to be the buddy and fill in behind. Usually we had a handler (catch) catch the pull and center it up to another handler (hitch) who would look for an in cut from the man to a deep cut to the buddy and then the others would fill in as needed if you didn't get the first in cut the buddy would come back under and the catch would be set up for a dump. I feel like its a really good way for younger players to have an idea of whats going to happen and their role in the offense until they learn things a little better.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2009, 04:57:38 AM »

Thanks a lot Guys!! That really really helps. I'm sure the terms come from old-school DoG coz the offense cheat sheet is a courtesy of Jim Parinella Wink

Thank again!!

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