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« on: August 18, 2008, 01:41:59 PM »

Hey, so, I've always thrown my backhand with a modified power grip (i.e. like a power grip, but the middle finger supports the disc a bit).  However, lately I've been trying to convert myself to a pure power grip.  The only problem is that I can seem to get much forward velocity on the throw.  Almost all of the throw goes in to the spin.  Now I know I'm supposed to somehow "rip" the throw off my index finger, but I'm not sure how this should work.  Does anyone have any ideas that might help me get the right feel (and more distance in general...I'm a a big guy...6'2", 199lbs..so strength isn't an issue I don't think?)?
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2008, 01:57:33 PM »

Hey Curls,

Have you seen these articles?

http://www.afda.com/skills/grips.htm
http://www.afda.com/skills/throwing_speed.htm

They are great resources on how to throw.

As for your situation, I assume you're using the power grip as displayed in the article above (as opposed to the second version of the beginner's grip with the outstretched index finger)?  Assuming this is the case, I think you just need to use more of your core and arm strength.  If most of your energy is going into the spinning aspect, you're probably using too much wrist motion as compared to your arm motion.  As a side note, if you are using the second version of the beginner's grip, ditch it immediately.  It's great for stability while you're learning, but you'll never generate enough power for a good, strong, solid huck.

Look at the attached photos (courtesy of Scobel Wiggins) of Mike Grant from Furious George throwing a backhand.  His form is very good indeed.  Notice his big step out to begin the throw and how he uses his arm and core strength to generate immense power.

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 02:01:19 PM »

I meant the power grip with all 4 finger sunder the disc.  The modified power grip I'm referring to is all fingers under the disc, but with about half of the middle finger supporting the under side of the disc.  Anyways, thanks for the info.  Oddly my forehand comes much more naturally to me.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2008, 02:02:58 PM »

...Looking at that page of grips...I'm talking about the hybrid grip when I say "modified power grip"
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 02:07:58 PM »

Yeah, you're using the best grip now.  The power grip is the best for power and speed.

I would also suggest going to http://www.ultivillage.com and watching the plethora of Clips-Of-The-Day they offer.  Some very good footage there for sure.

Best of luck!
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 01:50:34 AM »

I use a (apparently unorthadox) hybrid grip on my backhands, and it's served me well for the past few years.

I get most of my power from the index finger hooked under the rim, as all(?) do, but my other three fingers generally stay slightly extended.  Think the hybrid grip pictured on the AFDA site, but with all three fingers (and more extension).  This lets me hold the disc comfortably in any position, and makes for really easy high-releases since I have full control over the angle of the disc on the lift. 

When I go to huck, I find that my grip generally will naturally switch to a power grip as I wind up (my fingers will curl)--this probably happens to a lesser extent for short throws too, but I haven't gotten real verification on that yet.

It works really well for me, I don't feel like my backhand is limited in any way...your mileage may vary though, as I imagine my hand size plays a role in how I grip the disc too.
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