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« on: November 22, 2008, 07:06:51 PM »

I'm rather peeved at the new people at my club...they are all part of the schools rugby team and think frisbee is a complete joke, so they go to prat about and generally waste my hard-earned time! Recently I've found that my level of play has been dropping in the past few weeks that these moronic steroid-junkies have been showing up. My defence has gone to a ridiculous lack-lustered effortless lunge for the disk, my organisation has gone to pot, the on good thing that remains is the fact that I can actually throw a disk beyond an uncontrollable back-hand. I have Iron 5 coming up next month, and that friday lunchtime is the one time that I get an opportunity to play with the four guys accompying me to said tournament. Our coach welcomes them with open arms and it's so damn irritating that he does this, I just wish he would close the doors to these imbecilic neanderthals! They have no intention of playing the sport to enjoy it like I do, to improve on their skills, to enjoy the game and those around them...they go for a joke! Why do they believe that their friday lunchtime must be such a waste that they can irritate me and my co-captain just by existing!

So that was my rant, any thoughts or similar issues would be a welcome read...I'd love to think I'm not alone in this Anti-frisbee world!

Nick!
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 01:00:48 AM »

Its easy to get peeved and fume at these people. Everyone does. The awareness of Ultimate as a sport is non-existant. You can see it in media reports.

Personally, i've had one fellow start putting the shoulder in every time I either cut or moved back into the stack. As a result, I proceeded to score on him with no mercy and do thing that I wouldn't do on a raw beginner with some enthusiasm.

However, in the end he realized that he was a) letting his team down by being a tool b) looking like an idiot and c) putting everyone from the club offside.

After he started showing a bit of respect to the sport, I actually showed him what to do and taught him about the game.

I found that these "tough guys", they aren't too bright, but they are atheletic. So things you might want to try are actually giving them a youtube video of people doing crazy stuff (shoulder high layout bids, length of the field hammers, people getting massively skyed), then actually go outside and show them how to do it.

For example, show a video of people getting skyed, then go outside and play 500. Then when you catch the disc, make sure you spike it at everyone's feet and act like it is a big thing. (it is, but new people don't know that) Its unspirited (so make sure you never do it in a game with people that like ultimate and actually play seriously), but its a great way to teach someone, they just got owned. Most soccer or football players will understand that when the disc gets spiked at their feet and everyone is cheering the guy who just caught it, they just got owned. And no sportsman likes being owned by the nerdy guy that doesn't actually play a real sport  Grin .

Maybe broach the issue with your coach and ask him to run a few drills at the start. Get him to encourage everyone to do the drill properly. Make sure you and your friends are into it and doing things right. Compliment the "neanderthals" if they do something right or good.

Trick throws are also a good way of drawing people into to the more glamorous side of ultimate. At this tournament i was at, there was this guy, who wasn't really into the games and was only there because his friend dragged him along. He played a point and i faked a high release past his ear then threw to an open reciever whilst he was looking around. He said that it was "cool", so I went over and I showed him some "trick throws", things like faking a hammer then holding the disc behind your back. A few hours later, I was walking to a game and this fellow came running up and proceeded to tell me about this guy he faked out completely and all these cool things he had done through the day. I stumbled onto a way that got him completely hooked on ultimate simply by being a clown and showing him throws no serious, self respecting ultimate player would use in a game....

The most important thing is to act with diginity. Nobody is beneath the sport. No matter how much of a tool they are, everyone is entitled to play. Always. So perserve, try and come up with ways to convince these footy boys that ultimate is a real sport. Try and come up with ways to trick these guys into thinking like an ultimate player thinks.... Big fat handblocks = cool, big hits = bad, layout D's = cool, shitty throws = you're useless.

Possibly don't be that explicit though. Positive reinforcement is better than negative reinforcement.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2009, 09:32:51 PM »

Discuss your feelings with the coach and perhaps try to organise a serious 'invite only' training session for the committed.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 11:05:06 PM »

Seems to be an issue with Uni teams, especially here in australia where we have poeple sign up to play uni games thinking it is an easy ride. muhahaha.

Fortunately for my uni we were blessed with an aussie rep for a few years and a Ex GB player as well. This meant that most of the newer players knew what the elites in the sport could do. The problem now is that we have lost almost all our talent and the sport is now just grinding away with beginners. What can you do? Not much i suppose be patient.

As for getting rid of the rugby tools. You could always look for other oportunities to play or do as mentioned above and ask for a closed training session.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2009, 11:53:30 AM »

All this should be prefaced with MEET WITH YOUR COACH! your coach should be someone you can talk to and share your feelings about the team in confidence with. (especially as a co-captain!)

I had a similar problem this summer playing coed summer league in my city. I made it my goal that whoever i was marking would not touch the disc, ever. Challenge yourself. Set crazy high expectations for you and your captains when playing against these thugs. you might not reach them all, but you should be playing harder for any chance to.

you could make it a game: all the vets/returners have to do ##pushups at the end of the point for every time their person catches the disc(or they get broken, etc).

as for the Iron5- tell them that you and the co-captain are making this tournament invite only and those that didn't get an invite but want to play in the next tournament should step up their game and respect for it.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 09:52:51 AM »

Don't they make themselves look like tools enough by throwing the disc away and generally making stupid plays?

Don't sweat it.  Maybe out of the group there could be some good, athletic guys who just need a steer in the right direction.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2009, 05:32:23 AM »

Don't they make themselves look like tools enough by throwing the disc away and generally making stupid plays?

mmm, they also find it hilarious and don't sweat it.

In soccer, you turn the ball over hundreds of times a match. In football, roughly the same thing.

But you've hit an issue on the head here:

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Maybe out of the group there could be some good, athletic guys who just need a steer in the right direction.

I'd love to get some local elite soccer or football players into the game. It'd be awesome to see what some of them could do. I think it would be even more pronounced in the US where sport is in every school and you have high atheletic sports like basketball and gridiron that require alot of physical ability.
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