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Author Topic: The Road to Gold Coast: 2009 uni ultimate  (Read 271619 times)
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« Reply #150 on: May 13, 2009, 05:17:43 AM »

Last time I spoke to simmo EUGs wasn't becoming a qualifier.
When did I ever say that? Won't be a qualifier this year. Might be next year. Definitely in 2011.

The problem is uni sports charging for compulsory packages. If our uni brought something like that in, i'd get on the warpath and our uni co-ordinator would first get a letter every week with reasons why it should be changed back. Then i would move on and get letters from other sports agreeing with me.
That's the way to go about it.

Incidentally, here's what Ballarat uni charge...
SUGs: $240 (3 nights accom, fees, transport pass, social events, squad shirt) or $190 without accom
AUGs: $775 (flights, 5 nights accom, fees, transport pass, social events) or $495 without flights

The difference between us and a lot of unis is that there's not much competition to make the team. I don't recall anyone ever missing Uni Games because they didn't make a team. It's the whole supply/demand thing.
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« Reply #151 on: May 13, 2009, 06:45:05 AM »

The difference between us and a lot of unis is that there's not much competition to make the team. I don't recall anyone ever missing Uni Games because they didn't make a team. It's the whole supply/demand thing.

Honestly, does any uni apart from Sydney and UTS have to cut people to make 16 players?

I would really like to know. Anyone from UQ listening?
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« Reply #152 on: May 13, 2009, 07:43:02 AM »

EUG's is more than just another ultimate tourney. It's an experience. I first started playing Ultimate so I could attend Uni Games because that is the only way you could play Ultimate in Bathurst. As someone who has had to recruit before, it is easier to get people to come and play for your club if you say you are going to Unigames. Peeps come for the experience and are willing to pay for it. It's harder to get people to come and play a weekend tourney, EVEN if it is right in there backyard.

From my experience getting into the game, playing at Uni Games taught me about the sport, which in turned got me organising stuff in bathurst to now where there is a club and an annual tourney. I'm not saying that this will always happen, but if Ultimate leaves Uni Games, the possibility of getting new players into the game through this avenue ceases to happen.

Tiger has talked about the two different types of Ultimate Players before and that idea applies here. The hardcore Ultimate player with be happy to pay less and play at just another tourney. The casual or new ultimate player is happy to pay more to play Uni Games because it is Uni Games.

Simmo can help clarify, but next year to get to AUG's... You need to go through EUG's. I guess players are going to have to start picking and choosing their tourneys more carefully so they can afford to go to the ones that they want.

Enough ranting, time to head to school!!

I'm with Bozz... EUGs used to be kick ass back in my day...
"Holy Oldy Batman, it's another one of his back in my day speeches!"

Anyway... When I started EUGs was a pretty cut throat affair. It was pretty well set that UNSW, Suufa, Newie and Gong would get through to AUGs but the you had Mac, UTS, ANU all gunning for that 5th spot (not to mention putting pretty heavy pressure on Gong) because only 5 got through to AUGs automatically... Everyone else needed the wildcards to go. Add in the "social" teams from Cumbo, Central Coast Campus and you had an interesting mix which was a lot of fun.
AUGs was then the Nationals to EUGs regionals... If anything EUGs was even looser than AUGs because you had all the other joke teams (looking at the Mac Uni AFL squad... what a bunch of no hopers) going through going nuts in the same town (which seemed to be Coffs more often than not)...

basically you'd be happy to pay the same for EUGs as AUGs because they were both as good... Although this was in the day of Kick ass subsidies and not the days of MUSA trying to make a profit out of us...


And Bozz sometimes you need to cut corners to make more time for babbling... and if that means being late for school so be it



Boz, you are preaching to the choir though

Being pedantic isn't it "Preaching to the converted"? That's what I was writing in my uni essay the other day...
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« Reply #153 on: May 13, 2009, 08:01:32 AM »

Facebook stalking leads me to a note about the UTS EUG team for 2009... They're going to surprise everyone and do a lot better than most expect...

Look out everyone!
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« Reply #154 on: May 13, 2009, 08:50:56 AM »

Honestly, does any uni apart from Sydney and UTS have to cut people to make 16 players?

I would really like to know. Anyone from UQ listening?

Present. And yes, we would expect to cut a few.
Are unis allowed to take 2 teams to AUGs this year? Don't know whether we'll have the numbers, but is this an option?

We'll know more about UQ's situation in the coming weeks. There is movement at the station.
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« Reply #155 on: May 13, 2009, 09:02:55 AM »

Only ONE team to AUGs, confirmed.

EUGs used to be the shit - EUGs 06 in Coffs was insane, plus some incredible tough ultimate - came down to universe point betwen usyd and gong for who would make it to AUGs! Still in my top 3 fav games/tournaments of all time. When they didn't make it qualifying it changed everything. If the news is true, then I wish I was able to play next year Sad

As for money, if you dedicate yourself - you can make it to AUGs. Fundraising, uni assisstance (SUUFA subsidises our players) helps, but in the end you need to dedicate yourself. Value for money is pretty damn good. $70 for melb hat: 2 days, 1 party, lunches, shirt. $140 AUGs: 5 days play, 5 parties, experience of a lifetime

not too shabby in my books...
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« Reply #156 on: May 13, 2009, 06:13:51 PM »

Do any Uni Clubs engage in fundraising?

Sure, you can argue that you don't get value for money from what your uni demands.

Sure, you may be a broke student and can't afford it.

But if you want to go, you can probably fundraise pretty easily.  Particularly if you start early.  Particularly if your Club does the same fundraising every year (every time after the first it gets easier and easier) and makes it routine and 'just something we do'.

Just make it clear to people when you're doing it that you're fundraising to help send the 16 best members of your Club get over the barriers raised by others, to get to Uni Games.
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« Reply #157 on: May 13, 2009, 08:21:44 PM »

CSU fundraising used to involve barbeques at bar nights, selling chocolates and working for active after school care.
The people who did this earnt "frisbee credit" which essentially is cash that stayed in the club and would be used for tournaments and club gear. My AUG's player fee in 2007 was paid for by my frisbee credit.

Fundraising is shit easy to do and takes a couple of keen people to organise.
I have to go help with exams and what not, i'll comment on the other stuff a little later on Smiley
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« Reply #158 on: May 13, 2009, 09:12:53 PM »

Fundraising really is quite simple, if you put in the effort.

In the past, QUT has done fundraising at the Pig n Whistle, selling raffle tickets for about one hour on Friday nights for 6 weeks, then having a big draw at the end. Each night drunken office workers would throw money at us (sometimes they didn't want a ticket, just a kiss on the cheek from one of the girls) and we would make about $1,800 over 6 weeks. The prizes were then from the Pig n Whistle anyway so they donated them half the time.
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« Reply #159 on: May 14, 2009, 12:28:34 AM »

Can I add that, as a drunken office worker, I once drunkenly gave Jangles $10 for raffle tickets at the Pig and Whistle, although he didn't give me a kiss (that I recall - so if he did kiss me, it wasn't memorable).  Nonetheless my fellow drunken office workers followed by drunken lead, and between us QUT Ultimate made about a drunken $77.

Seriously, drunken office workers (many of whom were once uni students and so are slightly sympathetic) are suckers for poor young people in Uni-logoed sports shirts trying to fundraise to go to some sort of games thing (especially once we realise its just a big party interupted by sports).
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« Reply #160 on: May 14, 2009, 01:55:16 AM »

BUUF have had a long-standing sponsorship deal with 21Arms, the big uni club in B-Town. We run 3 or 4 social events each year that attract 500+ people (last one got 780) and have a deal where punters pay $3 to get in and they get two free drinks (usually punch or beer). We get half and 21Arms gets half.

We also use the same system Bozza and CSU use - whoever does the work gets the cash. Fundraising really is quite easy - it just needs people to do the footwork.

A good one we've done before (and will probably bring back this year) is player sponsorship - businesses sponsor a player for $100. Tends to be family/friends who do the sponsoring. We give them a framed photo of the team with a "______ proudly sponsoring Ballarat Uni Ultimate Frisbee" certificate to put on display, plus a mention in newspaper articles. And they get to write it off as a tax deduction (no idea how but my old boss does it every year).


And while I'm here, I echo Tanty's sentiments about SUGs back in the day. In 2006, we had 12 teams for 5 spots, so the quarter finals were a massive deal. We were playing Monash, who we lost to 11-10 after being up 8-10 at time cap TWICE in 2005. Time cap goes, we're 9-7 up and our confidence was shot and Monash were coming home strong. We agreed to no hard cap and the game ended up going for another 25 minutes. Monash got it back to 9-9 and the final point was Turnover City. Everyone from the other games were watching and the atmosphere was really intense. In the end we stole the win and went MENTAL. A couple of Monash players even shed some tears because of the intensity of the game. Still remains the best game I have ever played in.

We never face Monash last year (except for one practice game) so when we face them this year it will be sweet. Fisticuffs and everything.
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« Reply #161 on: May 14, 2009, 05:10:09 AM »

UWA will be cutting players this year, we expect to get in the region of 40 players coming to our try outs starting on monday... We have 60 regular players in a social league run on uni campus. 

Fundraising is key, not only does it give money to the team/competitors it makes the team bond as you are usually spending alot of time together organising stuff.  it works on so many lvls
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« Reply #162 on: May 14, 2009, 08:40:48 AM »

Back in 2003 (we half of you even ALIVE then?)... EUGs Mac (the Lee and Duncs show) vs ANU... Absolute nail biter... Critical point and Duncs Lays out off the edge of the field and rolls down the hill... I still remember holding my breath till he jumped up yelling "I'm OK!"... The whole crowd watching and cheering...

Mac ended up winning 13-11 and ANU had to rely on the wildcard to get there... and then beat us by about 3 or so at AUGs in the semi too they were so fired up for revenge...

So don't write off EUGs/SUGs especially given how incredibly the competition has soared in recent years


As for the fundraising... Mac did a choc sell and some other stuff in years gone by... it's just noone got their act together because noone seemed fired up... Except Hayley of course...
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« Reply #163 on: May 14, 2009, 08:54:52 AM »

I've forgotten what I was going to reply too... damn long days :-P
Another idea to make money for tournies...

Get $100 from somewhere and head to a casino, hit the roulette table and let it ride on black Wink
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« Reply #164 on: May 14, 2009, 09:02:09 AM »

...hit the roulette table and let it ride on black Wink

Once you go black....

Also last year we (and by "we", I mean Kaija's little sister) managed to get a nice $1440 from chocolates in like 4-6 weeks.
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